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congratulations YouTube you did it

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you wore me down and you sucked me back

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in I have too many subscribers here just

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to walk away entirely especially with no

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alternative that truly stacks up and so

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many copycat channels uploading my shows

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for me anyway but we can't forget the th

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C's account here is on thin ice and so

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the YouTube version of the show has to

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be prefaced with this little PSA only to

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say that episodes that contain the kinds

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of themes that have been regularly

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banned on YouTube will not appear here

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and even with that precaution there's

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already enough in the archive to get us

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removed so remember that the higher side

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chats could be banned or put in timeout

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again at any time and I won't be able to

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tell you guys about it so if you feel

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like it's been too long since you've

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heard from me here on this digital

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dystopian draconian data-mining monster

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of a police state seeking platform your

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first step should be to check the higher

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side chats calm for the latest shows

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alright alright enjoy happy July

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everybody you know I hate to waste your

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time with a news update but this is

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something I gotta tell you up front all

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this month to make sure everybody hears

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it and that is that on the fourth

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anniversary of the Plus system the start

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of August 2018 we are raising the cost

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of admission by a little bit to $8 a

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month I wrote at length about the whys

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and the what's in the house and the THC

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newsletter which we're gonna call the

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higher side Herald from now on and I'm

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gonna be much more consistent with it

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now that it's got a proper name but read

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that on Facebook or Twitter if you

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really want to get into the details but

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here's what you need to know if you're a

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current plus member you don't have to do

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anything if you want to stay onboard the

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commercial-free and action-packed

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two-hour ride we got going on here but

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the price will be going up in August

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if you've prepaid for 6 or 12 months in

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advance that time is covered you're

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already in but the next time the system

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needs to charge you whatever level

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you're at it will charge you at that new

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rate it's a change I've been torturing

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myself over for a while and the plus

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members you have given me some responses

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have all been really understanding and I

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can sigh the sweet sigh of relief but

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I'm sure we'll lose some people too and

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I'm prepared for that but please make

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sure you click on my account from the

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plus menu bar and cancel before August

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1st

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if you must the rest of you first our

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only folks have a little more time to

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get in on the ground floor as they say

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but even at eight dollars I think we're

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still an alright deal when you consider

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what else is out there I hate to do it

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but even Amazon Prime has raised the

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price on me twice in the last few years

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and I think they have a lot more members

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than me and I'm not asking for a key to

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your front door we're still gonna have

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five top notch monthly treks into this

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weird and conspiratorial world with the

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best guests in the business but I'm also

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gonna sweeten the pot with a monthly

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video session of good times and open

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lines where I will sit by the phone for

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you dear people and we're gonna call

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them joint sessions clever right so

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that's the news and THC land I know I

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know say it ain't so but as the guy who

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actually depends on this thing we got

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going here nobody's more anxious and

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nervous about a big change than I am so

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thanks for all the support and for not

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biting my head off too much now let's do

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the damn thing

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the planets puppet-masters almost sure

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you have a plan it's clearly maybe

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something there beyond the realm of man

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till we've thoroughly tested every last

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close just if you find the more you

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think you know much you really do

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we know the lying to us just don't know

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what to green where would we be without

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okay car wouldn't come

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all right higher side shatters whether

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its imperial expansion on the global

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chessboard the media's fake outrage over

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the latest chemical weapons attack

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claims the death of high-profile

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celebrities are nearly any other story

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of importance we know the sagas cooked

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up for public consumption are always

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missing some major ingredients because

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the oily appendages of the nefarious few

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are nearly everywhere and after decades

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of shoveling into the propaganda

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pipeline that feeds straight into the

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living room boob tube we must examine

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every angle of everything and resist the

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temptations to take our facts and latest

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arguments from the big machine itself

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well ever since the pizza gate dust-up

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pedophilia among the master class and

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child trafficking networks throughout

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the world have bubbled up to the

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forefront of our collective

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consciousness and of course the darkest

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of dark secrets can't be the subtext for

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every story but we are finding a lot of

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threads cut in the same cloth and many

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roads that do lead back to some sort of

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turmoil related to these entrenched

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powers and their highest crimes that for

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the longest time seemed untouchable so

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today we're going to talk about a lot of

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things but chief among them is an

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exploration of recent high-profile

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suicides and the argument that these

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were calculated killings carried out by

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those who wish to keep their boat from

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being rocked and here to help lay out

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the breadcrumbs as the hellraiser have

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read it himself mag Norris 7 we had a

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mere almost exactly a year ago to break

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down the Rothschild family and the

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details behind their carving up of

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Africa and how several African countries

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really only exist to keep their oil and

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diamond trade secure and to keep local

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people properly suppressed of course it

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was one of my favorite shows of 2017

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which covered Zimbabwe Chad Botswana and

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more and what we will get deeper into

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that study and what mr. Magna has

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uncovered in the latest year he's also

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turned his sleuthing skills to that

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string of deaths involving Anthony

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Queen sister and I'm super psyched to

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get into it the regulatory capture

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professor of read it the diamond Empire

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Deconstructor and now the celebrity

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death detective mag Norris Evan my good

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man welcome back to the

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hey Greg glad to be here man that was

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quite an intro nice lead-in there so

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let's jump right into it man let's talk

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about these suicides absolutely

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it that last episode was really popular

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you covered some lesser-known history

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that was super important and now

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recently I saw some of your posts

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questioning this latest string of

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suicides and I think it really is a

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perfect reason to have you back I did do

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a recent show with Jordan Saylor where

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we had a segment about these deaths but

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this should be way more detailed and

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there are a few added elements now that

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we didn't have then in the case of

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Anthony Bourdain all the claims were

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that he was stepping out of line and

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being way too critical of the Clintons

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and Harvey Weinstein and really pushing

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the envelope on what you can say well

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sure enough 48 hours before recording

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this his last interview is actually

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released and it's full of exactly this

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type of content so add it to the pile of

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curious elements that will make this

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worth exploring and of course not

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everything is a conspiracy but there is

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definitely enough here to be skeptical

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of the official story wouldn't you say

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yeah that's definitely right you know

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not every single one of these is a lock

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and load this is definitely a murder

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type of scenario there's definitely

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enough red flags that there should be

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investigations looking into these things

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and some of these people were ruled as

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suicides within hours by investigators

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despite all these motivated parties that

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might be interested in taking them out

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and I'd like to discuss those red flags

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here and I think we can build an

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interesting case perhaps solid let's do

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it so I think a lot of people know the

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names and what has happened but I guess

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several suicides we did have in a short

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right the big cluster that people

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remember was Kate Spade died on June 5th

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sister died on June 7th and then Anthony

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Bourdain died on June 8th so it's a

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three very high-profile people that all

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died by hanging and they died by hanging

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from their doorknobs with rope made from

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material found in their hotel or their

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house so very kind of crudely

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constructed Nace's hung from

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door knobs so that's kind of an odd

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situation and then two months prior of

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Ichi a musician he died at 28 so those

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four were kind of together it seemed

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like but the three within three days of

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each other all dying by the same method

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is very questionable yeah you got to

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wonder about that so if we're gonna dig

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deeper into Anthony Bourdain

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specifically I will say that on the

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surface level I was a big fan of his

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shows and podcast appearances over the

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years but obviously we've learned over

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time that a lot of people who become

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these household celebrity names are not

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random and are often sold to us as these

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rags to riches stories this was greatly

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exposed in the 60s musical

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counterculture where there were way too

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many rock stars that seemed to be the

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kids of people in military intelligence

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and that still goes on it's a big factor

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with Tom belong to actually but I

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mentioned the rags to riches thing

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because we have this with Anthony

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Bourdain too we're told he was bouncing

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around working in these kitchens

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partying extra hard wrote a book it

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randomly went viral in the rest is

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history well no that is not true at all

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his father was actually an executive at

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Columbia Records and his mom was an

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editor at the New York Times and if you

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didn't know his book was actually an

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expansion on what was first just an

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article he wrote his mother called over

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to the New Yorker and said hey print

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this they printed it put him on the

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cover and then he wrote a New York Times

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bestseller when his mom is an editor of

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the New York Times so well let it be

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known that he's pretty connected from

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the start yeah he seems like a guy who

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was in the right place at the right time

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and he definitely has interesting things

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to say I was starting to become a fan

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too I just actually gotten introduced to

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him about a month before his suicide

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happened hmm so it was on set it that's

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a reddit replacement we're building set

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at dotnet someone built Anthony Bourdain

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sub and they'd started placing all these

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Anthony Bourdain videos and so I kind of

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got hooked into it I started watching no

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reservations in show you know I started

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to get really into it as a real

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interesting guy with a lot of things to

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say but it's not surprising to me that

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it's always someone with connections

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that's able to rise through the media

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ranks the

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honestly it doesn't really take that

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special of a person to be a celebrity

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it just takes someone who's a little

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more charismatic than normal but then

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also given this platform and elevated

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that's where a lot of the celebrity

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comes from it's just the availability of

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the platform you know it's like Anderson

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Cooper is this really high ranked

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reporter and he worked for the CIA and

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like he said there's just so many like

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Frank Zappa even whom I loved his dad

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worked for the CIA and that's partly why

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he knew all the things that he knew even

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though he was just a musician there's a

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lot of interesting connections like that

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so yeah Anthony Bourdain had the number

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one show on the number-four Network

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which is CNN so it was like CNN's

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flagship show the whole CNN Network kind

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of was depending on Bourdain and his

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show to bringing viewers this guy had a

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lot of reach so if he wanted to say

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something controversial you could

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guarantee there'd be tens of millions of

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people if not more listening all around

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the world so this guy had huge reach so

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on this particular episode they were

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shooting for our reservations that are

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in Paris and he was travelling with his

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film crew and also his best friend they

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were staying at a hotel in Paris I mean

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this is Anthony Bourdain this is a guy

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who knows his way around depression

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knows his way around suicide you know

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this guy if you read his book or listen

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to him talk about his life he's been in

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some really bad spots in his life and he

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has learned how to work his way out of

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it you know he's been addicted to heroin

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he said he's he's been addicted to

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sounds like pretty much every drug Under

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the Sun at some point and then he said

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he's gone through all these bouts of

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depression but now he said he's turned

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to leave him lost you know 10 years or

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so because he has an 11 year old

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daughter and he says that he's

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discovered a joy of living that he

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didn't know before it wasn't kind of a

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manic joy it was just a deep

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satisfaction with life and another

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interview he also said if he was going

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to kill himself he'd OD on heroin that's

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what he said is the feeling of heroin

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he'd says is so euphoric that it was

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super hard to wean himself off of it but

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if he was going to die that would be how

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he would do it so if he wanted to kill

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himself if it was an emotional impulsive

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thing

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then maybe it would make more sense but

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I guess let's dig into this a little

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more about reasons why people might not

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like him so he was dating this girl Asia

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Argento and she was one of the first

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people to accuse Harvey Weinstein of

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rape so that's a pretty big deal one of

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the very first accusers and that would

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tell this me to stuff and it's been this

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explosive explosive topic in the media

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right so it's very possible his death

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could be a cover up to talk about the

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Weinsteins me to because he was

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extremely vocal about the me to subject

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as well as being vocal against Weinstein

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also right before Bourdain died his girl

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Asia she was at the Cannes Film Festival

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and she gave this speech where she said

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Harvey Weinstein assaulted me right here

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in this room and there are others among

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you in the crowd that know you're guilty

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also and we're gonna get to you and

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we're gonna expose you as well and so

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this isn't just about a guy who's

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already being dragged through the media

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this is about a culture in Hollywood

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that there are more people involved and

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when you raise awareness that you're

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going to start going after more people

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well now there's potential that they're

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gonna come after you as well so it is an

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interesting detail that she gave that

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speech you can look it up on YouTube and

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it's pretty aggressive

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I mean think back 10 years ago you would

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not expect to hear something like this

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and then sure enough the love of her

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life is dead I mean you gotta at least

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consider these threads as well yeah and

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I mean you want to hear dress it just

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wait so we talked about the board to an

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interview that just came out I mean he

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does not hold back yes we'll get to that

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in a second here there's a lot of talk

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he's a CIA asset given his rise to CNN

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and basically at the top of CNN which is

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the number for network and if anybody's

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studying a project Mockingbird or

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anything like that the CIA has a very

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well-defined mission to try and control

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the messaging of the media and they have

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all these strong connections with all

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these media companies those are fairly

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well documented things so would not be

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surprising at all to see that Bourdain

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was the CIA asset on some degree yeah

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not at all and especially the New York

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Times and CNN specifically are like the

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top two candidates when you're talking

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about CIA infiltrated networks what's

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interesting too is since you know this

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might be tied to its sex trafficking is

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that right as Bourdain was dying there

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was a hundred and sixty children were

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found and released from a pedophile ring

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in Atlanta Georgia the FBI found 160

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children locked in a basically for this

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pedo ring and CNN is in Atlanta Georgia

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in that same city and they basically

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didn't cover this at all there just

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seems extremely weird to me because if

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you had 160 children found in a sex

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slavery ring like in Africa for like

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Boko Haram or something it would be

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front-page news it would be like oh my

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god we found these children we saved

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them from sex slavery but because it

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happened in Atlanta it had this weird

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kind of brushed under the rug approach

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to it which I found extremely unsettling

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but this is on the same network that

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ordains Network CNN and I don't know if

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that's completely connected but it shows

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an interesting approach and then yeah

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like we were talking about Bourdain

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really hated Weinstein he was very vocal

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on Twitter and hoping for Harvey

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Weinstein not only to be in prison but

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to be injured I mean this guy was not

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splitting hairs about how much he hated

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Harvey Weinstein especially because he's

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dating his Asia Argento who accused

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Harvey Weinstein of rape so this whole

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Me 2 episode became a big push for him

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and this is just in the last few months

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as well before he died and there's a

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couple other reasons people might want

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him gone I mean he did a video about the

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Armenian Genocide where he traveled

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between Armenia and Azerbaijan and the

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CIA does not like people talking about

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that and neither does Armenia and

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neither does Turkey it was a very

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controversial thing so he's been pushing

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a lot of big buttons lately and pushing

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things in a lot of interesting ways so

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that's no surprise as people who wanted

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him gone

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I think there was a perception he was

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becoming a loose cannon even if he was

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like a CIA asset right he could become

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such at least cannon that they decide

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they need to change how they relate to

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him or get rid of them if they can't

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tell him the silence and this is a guy

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that it would be very difficult to

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silence I think someone who definitely

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speaks his mind and then on top of that

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he uses a racially Jewish non-religious

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person who was very outspoken about

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Palestine he won at MPAC

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Media Award and during his acceptance

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speech he said the world has visited

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many terrible things on the Palestinian

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people

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none of them more shameful than robbing

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them of their basic humanity so you can

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imagine a lot of the Zionists and the

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power structure of Hollywood

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probably weren't too keen on these types

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of statements so I don't think anyone by

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itself was bad enough but it seems like

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maybe the combination of them was or

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perhaps it was just solely this Clinton

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issue I would that Weinstein issue yeah

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it's kind of crazy man it's like JFK he

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was ruffling so many feathers and so

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many segments and so many different

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sectors that it's hard to isolate the

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cause but you got Zionists you got

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pedophile Network she got Hollywood

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oligarchs right you got CNN in the CIA

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military-industrial complex I mean

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you've got Mossad that you've got a mice

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I mean there's all these intelligent

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agencies everywhere in different

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countries that don't like the things

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he's saying I mean yeah he was stepping

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on a lot of toes so it's hard to narrow

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it down exactly yeah

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offending any one of these groups is

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enough to cause someone to unexpectedly

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commit suicide

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yeah and especially with how

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high-profile he is I mean he can put out

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episode and you know tens of millions of

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people see it it's an audience to that's

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there to learn about traveling the world

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and you know it's not like he's writes

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all this hard-hitting stuff all the time

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it's more kind of an incidental thing so

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he's able to reach groups of people that

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may not pay attention to politics

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otherwise so he might be able to speak

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to a whole different demographic than

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news would target for example so that

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gives him even more power in the media

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so I can see why people would want him

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gone

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so anyways there's some interesting

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things that happen on the days

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surrounding

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his death so Asia Argento was seen

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wearing a seditious shirt that had

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you written on it with the middle finger

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as an Instagram pic and then below it it

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had written you know who you are so she

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was telling someone you and it's

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not clear whether that was aimed towards

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Bourdain or towards people who were

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harassing Bourdain or the Weinstein

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stuff it's not completely clear what

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that's for but that was posted and later

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deleted then later while we're Dana's in

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Paris shooting this episode Asia Argento

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was in Italy and paparazzi in Italy

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spotted her holding hands basically with

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this younger guy who's a model and the

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two of them were walking around the town

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holding hands and stuff and these

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pictures got posted online so there is

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the possibility that Anthony saw these

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pictures this is kind of the mainstream

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story that he saw these pictures online

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of Asia cheating on him and he was so

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distraught that he killed himself so

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that's what I've heard the mainstream

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story is but the pictures were taken

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four to five days before his death so

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it's possible it's looking 45 days to

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discover the pictures or they weren't

547
00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:00,730
immediately posted online or something

548
00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:03,790
like that but it seems like maybe he

549
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:05,320
would have had access those pictures for

550
00:21:10,110 --> 00:21:07,810
a few days and then the evening before

551
00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:10,120
he skipped dinner apparently so he

552
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,980
didn't show up to dinner and then when

553
00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:13,840
he didn't arrive for breakfast the next

554
00:21:18,540 --> 00:21:15,910
day the receptionist went to his room

555
00:21:20,270 --> 00:21:18,550
and found his body so now there's a lot

556
00:21:23,610 --> 00:21:20,280
of people saying that Bourdain and Asia

557
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:23,620
were in an open relationship so Asia

558
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:25,810
wasn't actually cheating on him in which

559
00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:27,610
case he would not have been distraught

560
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:29,260
it would have been an understood thing

561
00:21:33,780 --> 00:21:30,880
between them that they're in an open

562
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:33,790
relationship but it seems there's some

563
00:21:39,630 --> 00:21:36,610
people saying that Bourdain didn't know

564
00:21:41,310 --> 00:21:39,640
it was an open relationship so only Asia

565
00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:41,320
was under that impression which means

566
00:21:45,150 --> 00:21:42,550
you know it's not truly open

567
00:21:46,650 --> 00:21:45,160
relationship that's agreed upon so it's

568
00:21:47,730 --> 00:21:46,660
not clear whether they actually were an

569
00:21:49,770 --> 00:21:47,740
open relationship

570
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:49,780
or whether that's just a story now to

571
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:53,410
protect Asia so she clearly was kind of

572
00:21:57,570 --> 00:21:55,090
playing the field a little bit while he

573
00:22:00,180 --> 00:21:57,580
was in Paris so well I think those open

574
00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:00,190
relationships are way more common than

575
00:22:03,539 --> 00:22:02,200
people realize especially in those

576
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:03,549
circles I mean age

577
00:22:09,779 --> 00:22:07,090
his dad was also like a famous director

578
00:22:12,049 --> 00:22:09,789
from Italy he's kind of like Italy's

579
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:12,059
Alfred Hitchcock he used to work in

580
00:22:19,139 --> 00:22:17,110
horror genres and sexploitation genres I

581
00:22:21,269 --> 00:22:19,149
don't know it just seems to go hand in

582
00:22:23,639 --> 00:22:21,279
hand with that whole crowd you really

583
00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:23,649
just can't be a monogamous celebrity it

584
00:22:28,409 --> 00:22:25,809
seems so I mean really not even

585
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:28,419
surprised by those threads but I do

586
00:22:33,479 --> 00:22:30,129
think it's kind of something that people

587
00:22:36,989 --> 00:22:33,489
are trying to glob on to this suicide to

588
00:22:39,629 --> 00:22:36,999
kind of justify it in some way when you

589
00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:39,639
know that's probably a cover story yeah

590
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:41,529
it seems that way and there's some

591
00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:43,330
evidence that this open relationship

592
00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:45,700
narrative is coming from Rose who is an

593
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:49,929
associate of Asia and Bourdain and we'll

594
00:22:53,129 --> 00:22:51,369
talk about Rose a little more here in a

595
00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:53,139
second because he mentions Rose in that

596
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:56,049
interview that just came out so what's

597
00:23:00,539 --> 00:22:58,480
interesting about after he died no foul

598
00:23:02,249 --> 00:23:00,549
play was suspected so despite all these

599
00:23:04,859 --> 00:23:02,259
motivations we just talked about all

600
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:04,869
these people he's pissed off they

601
00:23:09,539 --> 00:23:07,600
immediately ruled no foul play to me

602
00:23:13,109 --> 00:23:09,549
this is a guy who's got lots of people

603
00:23:15,450 --> 00:23:13,119
who want him silence that to me alone is

604
00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:15,460
enough to warrant an investigation that

605
00:23:21,539 --> 00:23:17,739
lasts longer than a day or two you know

606
00:23:24,629 --> 00:23:21,549
and then interestingly his body no foul

607
00:23:26,190 --> 00:23:24,639
play suspected the French prosecutor so

608
00:23:28,499 --> 00:23:26,200
there was no evidence his death was

609
00:23:30,479 --> 00:23:28,509
anything but a suicide so they cremated

610
00:23:33,210 --> 00:23:30,489
in five days after he died he was

611
00:23:36,629 --> 00:23:33,220
cremated in Paris which seems rather

612
00:23:38,879 --> 00:23:36,639
quick and the toxicology report revealed

613
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:38,889
no narcotics in his body he wasn't drunk

614
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:43,360
he wasn't on anything he just died

615
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:44,890
another angle I've heard is it's

616
00:23:49,170 --> 00:23:46,450
possible he died via auto-erotic

617
00:23:50,580 --> 00:23:49,180
asphyxiation doing that just for

618
00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:50,590
pleasure for himself and I got out of

619
00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:51,070
control

620
00:23:58,620 --> 00:23:55,990
himself to death which is possible I

621
00:24:01,890 --> 00:23:58,630
suppose but this is a guy that's 61

622
00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:01,900
years old who just potentially broke up

623
00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:03,790
with someone that he really cares deeply

624
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:05,920
for with plenty of experience in

625
00:24:10,530 --> 00:24:08,110
auto-erotic asphyxiation I mean this guy

626
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:10,540
knows how to do it he's not screwing up

627
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:13,360
yeah I yeah it just doesn't make sense

628
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:14,850
to me

629
00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:16,860
and the hanging from a doorknob think -

630
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:17,940
I mean that's just weird

631
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,650
I mean if you're gonna try and kill

632
00:24:23,210 --> 00:24:21,120
yourself you would hang from a high

633
00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:23,220
place so that your feet don't touch the

634
00:24:27,020 --> 00:24:25,140
ground because once you start to

635
00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:27,030
actually expects EA Tour body does

636
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:30,030
everything in its power to stop that it

637
00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:31,650
becomes like a reflex to stop yourself

638
00:24:35,780 --> 00:24:33,870
from choking I mean it's definitely

639
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:35,790
possible as opposed but it seems like if

640
00:24:41,030 --> 00:24:37,170
you were to hang yourself from a

641
00:24:43,460 --> 00:24:41,040
doorknob you would at some point freak

642
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:43,470
out and stand up and take the noose off

643
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:45,870
I mean it unless you had it so tight

644
00:24:49,670 --> 00:24:47,370
that you couldn't undo it or something

645
00:24:52,130 --> 00:24:49,680
as an accident it just seems like a

646
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:52,140
really rough way to go I mean the proper

647
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:54,210
hang like if you're hanged by the state

648
00:24:57,860 --> 00:24:55,530
or something like a hundred years ago

649
00:25:01,100 --> 00:24:57,870
they have the gallows and you drop like

650
00:25:03,290 --> 00:25:01,110
seven feet when the noose catches the

651
00:25:05,030 --> 00:25:03,300
bottom that breaks your neck and it's

652
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:05,040
the breaking of your neck that kills you

653
00:25:08,570 --> 00:25:07,650
and that's a proper hanging that's how

654
00:25:10,370 --> 00:25:08,580
it's supposed to work

655
00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:10,380
the person should be dead in like 20

656
00:25:13,490 --> 00:25:12,120
seconds but instead what all these

657
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:13,500
people did is they died by asphyxiation

658
00:25:18,170 --> 00:25:16,050
they done by choking so they basically

659
00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:18,180
just cut off their airway and then just

660
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:20,460
didn't have oxygen until they died which

661
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:24,240
can take five to 10 minutes so it just

662
00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:26,250
seems crazy to me that these very

663
00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:28,020
powerful people that have lots of money

664
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:29,310
and connections that could kill

665
00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:31,050
themselves anyway they wanted if they

666
00:25:38,150 --> 00:25:35,030
wanted to choose this incredibly slow

667
00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:38,160
painful method doesn't make a lot of

668
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:41,220
sense to pain I agree it seems like code

669
00:25:48,290 --> 00:25:44,130
almost yeah it does seem like code and

670
00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:48,300
there's a CIA officer actually agent

671
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:50,520
steel as ex-cia officer I don't know the

672
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:52,770
first name buddies Robert David steel

673
00:25:56,780 --> 00:25:54,690
previous guests of mine actually oh

674
00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:56,790
really okay I think that's his name

675
00:26:01,160 --> 00:25:58,980
he said the circumstances of the death

676
00:26:02,990 --> 00:26:01,170
have a significant symbolic yet hidden

677
00:26:05,030 --> 00:26:03,000
meaning that intelligence agencies

678
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:05,040
recognize and says hung on doorknobs

679
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,290
means choked for speaking out against

680
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:10,080
the Cabal so I don't know if that's true

681
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,690
but that's an interesting theory and I

682
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:15,120
mean we were just talking about Bourdain

683
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:17,310
but there's like 10 or 15 of these

684
00:26:22,460 --> 00:26:20,010
celebrity suicides that are hanging from

685
00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:22,470
doorknobs I mean it's very specific and

686
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:26,190
odd uh-huh and you know if you wanted to

687
00:26:31,019 --> 00:26:28,090
murder someone and make it look like

688
00:26:32,850 --> 00:26:31,029
suicide hanging is a very good way to do

689
00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:32,860
that because you can strangulate someone

690
00:26:36,210 --> 00:26:34,120
and then just put a noose around their

691
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:36,220
neck hang it to a doorknob and then said

692
00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:38,770
they hang themselves and then any trauma

693
00:26:42,659 --> 00:26:40,150
around the neck they'll just a tribute

694
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:42,669
to the noose you know or you could even

695
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:44,529
just choke them with the noose and then

696
00:26:47,850 --> 00:26:45,850
just when you're done hang it on the

697
00:26:50,730 --> 00:26:47,860
doorknob you know it's not like a tough

698
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:50,740
if you're gonna fake a suicide I mean

699
00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:52,090
that would be the way to do it pretty

700
00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:54,520
much mm-hmm so that's another piece of

701
00:27:00,120 --> 00:26:56,230
evidence that makes all this pretty

702
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:00,130
suspicious I agree and I guess let's get

703
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:02,950
into that interview that came out after

704
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:05,710
his death because I do think it's pretty

705
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,529
telling right yeah let's look at that so

706
00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:10,720
I'm gonna read a couple snippets from

707
00:27:15,389 --> 00:27:13,390
that so the interview asked him how do

708
00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:15,399
you feel about Clinton and Bourdain said

709
00:27:20,370 --> 00:27:17,740
look after my ill-advised hemlock

710
00:27:22,049 --> 00:27:20,380
comment to TMZ which is referencing they

711
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:22,059
asked him what would you serve Donald

712
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,350
Trump if you could serve him any meal

713
00:27:26,850 --> 00:27:24,880
and he said I'd serve him hemlock which

714
00:27:29,010 --> 00:27:26,860
is poison and it was just kind of a

715
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:29,020
tongue-in-cheek thing but he's a look

716
00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:30,730
after my ill-advised hemlock comment to

717
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,590
TMZ I found myself you know with

718
00:27:36,810 --> 00:27:34,240
hundreds if not thousands of death

719
00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:36,820
threats and maggot rolls and Russian

720
00:27:41,850 --> 00:27:39,100
trolls and anonymous posts and letters

721
00:27:44,370 --> 00:27:41,860
to me my ex-wife and to everyone in my

722
00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:44,380
life and I ended up being interviewed by

723
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:47,230
the secret police who were very nice so

724
00:27:52,139 --> 00:27:50,260
he made that hemlock comment and secret

725
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:52,149
police show up he gets death threats and

726
00:27:56,430 --> 00:27:54,850
that's for him criticizing Trump that's

727
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:56,440
not even the whole Weinstein thing

728
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:58,090
that's like a whole separate that's the

729
00:28:01,399 --> 00:27:59,440
opposite side of the political spectrum

730
00:28:05,490 --> 00:28:01,409
so he's getting blasted from both sides

731
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,500
which is tough to endure so he said then

732
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:07,120
I was really disappointed with the

733
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,370
statement that Clinton made but even

734
00:28:13,139 --> 00:28:11,440
expressing that the way my comment was

735
00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:13,149
turned very neatly suddenly I was an

736
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:14,830
expressing disappointment and Clinton's

737
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:17,470
statement I was blaming her for Harvey

738
00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:19,330
Weinstein's crimes the way that turned

739
00:28:23,399 --> 00:28:21,220
very nice it was a good bit of artistry

740
00:28:24,779 --> 00:28:23,409
and deeply frightening to me and really

741
00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:24,789
really and the interview says it's

742
00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:26,409
dangerous to be as famous as you are

743
00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:28,600
really dangerous where and says you know

744
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:29,950
suddenly we're talking about something

745
00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:30,490
else

746
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:33,460
and it wasn't good for me that is

747
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:35,200
telling to me that's like I was

748
00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:37,570
criticizing Weinstein but that got

749
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:39,820
turned into a criticizing Clinton

750
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:41,470
because she didn't come out strongly

751
00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:42,010
enough again

752
00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:44,020
the wine scene stuff so now people are

753
00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:45,220
coming after me because they're saying

754
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:47,580
I'm not being nice to Clinton basically

755
00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:50,320
and he says that wasn't good for him

756
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:53,380
which is extremely big and odd so the

757
00:28:56,580 --> 00:28:54,670
interviewer says there's an opportunity

758
00:28:57,450 --> 00:28:56,590
in twisting what you say for people who

759
00:28:59,330 --> 00:28:57,460
have an agenda

760
00:29:01,290 --> 00:28:59,340
Bourdain says I learned a lesson

761
00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:01,300
interviewer says you're a source of

762
00:29:05,790 --> 00:29:03,580
value you're a valuable target a signer

763
00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:05,800
of attention it's not normal

764
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:07,900
Bourdain says I got slapped down hard

765
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:11,740
and it was a chastening experience so he

766
00:29:17,010 --> 00:29:14,050
you know he's run into some things that

767
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:17,020
after speaking out he's on their radar

768
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:20,110
and do you know much more about this

769
00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:23,140
interview or interviewer themselves

770
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:24,820
because from what I understand he

771
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:27,370
granted this interview to someone that

772
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:30,010
was starting a new media company so

773
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:32,910
these are already pretty probing and

774
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:36,250
sensitive questions to be asking yeah

775
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:37,810
and it was gonna launch on this new

776
00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:39,910
platform do you know much about how he

777
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:42,340
would be connected to this interviewer

778
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:44,050
or what's going on with this new

779
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:46,750
platform that's a good question I don't

780
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:48,850
know the connection but I did check out

781
00:29:53,310 --> 00:29:50,710
their website and it's I think it's an

782
00:29:54,990 --> 00:29:53,320
Italian person who does these interviews

783
00:29:57,090 --> 00:29:55,000
and yeah they set up their own website

784
00:29:59,460 --> 00:29:57,100
and they're got their own little media

785
00:30:00,990 --> 00:29:59,470
company and they were the ones to get

786
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:01,000
this interview apparently but yeah I

787
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:02,170
don't know how they secured the

788
00:30:07,170 --> 00:30:04,930
interview that's a good question hmm it

789
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:07,180
would be interesting to know well right

790
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:09,370
on I mean yeah something to check out

791
00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:11,650
obviously there's some connection this

792
00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:13,990
person has to have some type of reach to

793
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,220
get a celebrity at Bourdain's level and

794
00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:19,600
someone who would even be willing to go

795
00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:20,980
into these kind of things I mean

796
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:23,230
obviously most interviews at this level

797
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:24,970
are pre-arranged you know what kind of

798
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:27,490
questions are coming you've chosen to

799
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:30,130
talk about this stuff instead of food or

800
00:30:35,010 --> 00:30:33,370
travel great kind of curious but sure go

801
00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:35,020
on there are definitely a few more

802
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:37,750
things to note about this interview yes

803
00:30:41,370 --> 00:30:39,250
so in the later part of the interview he

804
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:41,380
talks about hidden forces so that

805
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:43,210
interviewer asks about hidden forces and

806
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:44,820
Bourdain says there are forces out there

807
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:47,290
we're really powerful and scary

808
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:49,750
I had dinner with Rose McGowan that's

809
00:30:52,830 --> 00:30:51,010
his friend Rose you mentioned earlier

810
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:52,840
and Rose is telling me you know these

811
00:30:55,460 --> 00:30:54,610
people are spying on me these people are

812
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:55,470
saying they're my

813
00:30:59,299 --> 00:30:57,210
and they're not my friends in fact

814
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,309
they're paid intelligence operatives and

815
00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:01,200
I remember thinking look I support you

816
00:31:04,129 --> 00:31:02,700
all the way but in the back of my head

817
00:31:06,169 --> 00:31:04,139
I'm thinking I don't know I'm not so

818
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:06,179
sure about this then a minute later this

819
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:08,460
nightmarish thing happens interviewer

820
00:31:12,379 --> 00:31:10,289
says it's true you know I discovered the

821
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:12,389
Gawker trial in Saint Petersburg we had

822
00:31:16,340 --> 00:31:14,070
no clue that Peter Thiel is paying for

823
00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:16,350
that we're a million journalists

824
00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:18,419
they're all this Hulk Hogan nonsense we

825
00:31:21,889 --> 00:31:19,980
did not know what we were looking at I

826
00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:21,899
assume that's talking about some I got

827
00:31:26,269 --> 00:31:24,299
special media privileges by paying for

828
00:31:28,669 --> 00:31:26,279
it and the rest of the media was

829
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:28,679
basically locked out well not realizing

830
00:31:32,419 --> 00:31:30,870
them and then Bourdain says I've come to

831
00:31:34,369 --> 00:31:32,429
understand traveling the world I see

832
00:31:36,409 --> 00:31:34,379
good people crush randomly under the

833
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:36,419
wheel or buy bad things all the time as

834
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:38,610
I see it happen to friends not to be too

835
00:31:42,740 --> 00:31:40,080
paranoid but I think they're doing a

836
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:42,750
very effective job on rows I don't know

837
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:45,450
when the truth is enough anymore hmm so

838
00:31:50,749 --> 00:31:47,610
he san I think they're doing a very

839
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:50,759
effective job on rows talking about the

840
00:31:54,590 --> 00:31:52,710
intelligence agencies in these media PR

841
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:54,600
companies managed eros and trying to

842
00:31:58,930 --> 00:31:56,490
gather intelligence to manipulate her I

843
00:32:02,539 --> 00:31:58,940
mean that is creepy

844
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:02,549
then later Bourdain says again it goes

845
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:04,769
back to that 60s thing I just want to

846
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:06,570
survive I don't need to be number

847
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,490
one I don't need to beat the out

848
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,039
anybody I don't need to be ahead I just

849
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:12,720
want to still be here at the end of the

850
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:14,490
day doing what I'm doing without

851
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:17,730
anybody hassling me so I mean Bourdain

852
00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:20,250
is a guy he says some provocative things

853
00:32:26,869 --> 00:32:23,460
but he's not out to fight a war he's

854
00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:26,879
just there to say the truth and didn't

855
00:32:31,009 --> 00:32:28,860
want hassle for it but it obviously got

856
00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:31,019
a lot of hassle for it and then later

857
00:32:35,499 --> 00:32:33,000
there's a tweet from ordained on his

858
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:35,509
Twitter that says there's a nauseating

859
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:39,090
symmetry both Trump and Weinstein is a

860
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,690
mi Renta sees Enquirer and black cube is

861
00:32:47,779 --> 00:32:45,360
an Israeli private Intel to do their

862
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:47,789
dirty work so have you heard about black

863
00:32:53,659 --> 00:32:51,090
cube before I've heard of black cube

864
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:53,669
symbolism in terms of the Brotherhood of

865
00:32:59,060 --> 00:32:57,120
Saturn and the cross actually being a

866
00:33:00,980 --> 00:32:59,070
folded out cube and that this is the

867
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:00,990
secret that all the Jews are worshipping

868
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:03,690
the black cube or something and then the

869
00:33:07,639 --> 00:33:06,330
black even Mecca also that all the must

870
00:33:10,130 --> 00:33:07,649
circle around when they go on their

871
00:33:13,940 --> 00:33:10,140
pilgrimage right right so there's this

872
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:13,950
company now this Israeli PR firm called

873
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:16,500
black cube and they marked themselves as

874
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:18,390
a group of X members of Israeli

875
00:33:22,490 --> 00:33:20,370
intelligence units helping specialise in

876
00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:22,500
business and litigation challenges to

877
00:33:27,470 --> 00:33:24,659
help stop the publication of abusive

878
00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:27,480
allegations against certain actors and

879
00:33:33,259 --> 00:33:31,220
media people so they're ex-mossad

880
00:33:36,769 --> 00:33:33,269
basically who probably still have very

881
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:36,779
strong Mossad connections who shut down

882
00:33:42,169 --> 00:33:40,080
media stories they don't want so people

883
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:42,179
come to them say like Barbra Streisand

884
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:45,510
effect I want this shut down they go

885
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:47,250
through the internet they go through TV

886
00:33:51,139 --> 00:33:49,769
media and they work to make sure the

887
00:33:54,649 --> 00:33:51,149
story doesn't get out

888
00:33:57,379 --> 00:33:54,659
so Weinstein was using black cube to try

889
00:33:59,539 --> 00:33:57,389
and manage this whole Weinstein scandal

890
00:34:01,490 --> 00:33:59,549
and then I started digging a little into

891
00:34:04,129 --> 00:34:01,500
the black cube company and it is quite a

892
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:04,139
company so one account in The New York

893
00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:05,850
courier describes two private

894
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:07,380
investigators from black keep using

895
00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:09,510
false identities meeting with the

896
00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:11,070
actress Rose McGowan to extract

897
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:13,409
information from her my cublas also

898
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,210
vibrating with Mossad like we said

899
00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:17,280
a lot of them are ex-mossad which is it

900
00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:19,710
Israeli equivalent to the CIA they were

901
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,030
caught spying on the Obama

902
00:34:25,339 --> 00:34:23,280
administration so this is a

903
00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:25,349
non-governmental agency that's

904
00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:27,960
supposedly doing PR for celebrities that

905
00:34:32,419 --> 00:34:29,580
is actually spying on the Obama

906
00:34:34,010 --> 00:34:32,429
administration and they were also not

907
00:34:36,859 --> 00:34:34,020
even spying but they were sending out

908
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:36,869
fake emails to people in the US

909
00:34:40,609 --> 00:34:39,240
government to try and and in the Iranian

910
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,619
government to try and undermine the

911
00:34:44,450 --> 00:34:42,720
Iranian nuclear deal because they do not

912
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:44,460
want the Iranian nuclear deal to go

913
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:45,839
through because that would mean peace

914
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:49,050
and peace is bad for Israel's territory

915
00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:50,460
conquests basically because they have

916
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:52,830
the military upper hand these peace

917
00:34:56,839 --> 00:34:54,210
trees keep falling through and

918
00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:56,849
apparently that's no accident so

919
00:35:01,640 --> 00:34:58,740
companies like black cube were working

920
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:01,650
to do the bidding of the highest bidder

921
00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:04,980
basically and then also the documents

922
00:35:09,859 --> 00:35:06,750
show the black cube compiled detailed

923
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:09,869
background profiles of many people and

924
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:12,330
putting their addresses their family and

925
00:35:16,490 --> 00:35:13,890
members are the makes and model their

926
00:35:19,339 --> 00:35:16,500
cars I mean they build a catalogue on

927
00:35:20,089 --> 00:35:19,349
their targets and then once they do that

928
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:20,099
they're instruct

929
00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:21,930
to find damaging information about these

930
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:24,599
people including unsubstantiated claims

931
00:35:29,089 --> 00:35:26,700
that seem like they might be true for

932
00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:29,099
instance roads and call our two people

933
00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:30,390
worked on there running a nuclear deal

934
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:32,940
and they put out false information that

935
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:34,380
those people worked with Iranian

936
00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:37,049
lobbyists in secret so they're trying to

937
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:39,089
make it look like the Iranian nuclear

938
00:35:43,789 --> 00:35:41,400
deal is a collusion thing when perhaps

939
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:43,799
it wasn't they're trying to spin things

940
00:35:48,529 --> 00:35:45,630
to make it look worse than they are so

941
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,539
it fails this is black cube so this is

942
00:35:52,779 --> 00:35:50,160
the company that Weinstein hired to

943
00:35:55,729 --> 00:35:52,789
silence people like Anthony Bourdain I

944
00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:55,739
can't say like black cube killed Anthony

945
00:36:00,079 --> 00:35:57,390
Bourdain I think that's way too strong

946
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,089
with a statement but I would not be

947
00:36:03,799 --> 00:36:02,160
surprised if black cube hired the

948
00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:03,809
company that hired the company that

949
00:36:07,849 --> 00:36:05,700
killed Bourdain or something along those

950
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:07,859
lines or it could be completely

951
00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:09,569
unrelated to black cube and it could be

952
00:36:13,069 --> 00:36:11,880
a separate thing with different people

953
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:13,079
he pissed off because like we said he

954
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:15,359
pissed off so many people that it's hard

955
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:17,640
to narrow down like who exactly would be

956
00:36:22,999 --> 00:36:20,970
the most motivated right and another

957
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,009
thing I was gonna say is if any of the

958
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:25,440
listeners listen to the Chilean podcast

959
00:36:28,969 --> 00:36:26,729
of course he talks about Anthony

960
00:36:31,269 --> 00:36:28,979
Bourdain a lot they seem to be friendly

961
00:36:34,339 --> 00:36:31,279
I don't know how close they are but

962
00:36:36,859 --> 00:36:34,349
someone on Rogen's podcast brought up

963
00:36:38,690 --> 00:36:36,869
the conspiracies around Bourdain's death

964
00:36:41,029 --> 00:36:38,700
and he was like no no no I shut that

965
00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:41,039
down right away and then they pull up

966
00:36:45,319 --> 00:36:43,859
some of Bourdain's tweets and he has one

967
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:45,329
where he says something to the effect

968
00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:48,089
that he was recently on the receiving

969
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:50,219
end of Clinton's operatives and it was

970
00:36:54,799 --> 00:36:53,249
not fun yeah and Rogan read that on the

971
00:36:58,039 --> 00:36:54,809
air and then just kind of stopped was

972
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:58,049
like huh that's a weird thing to say I I

973
00:37:01,519 --> 00:36:59,249
don't know what to make of that but

974
00:37:04,209 --> 00:37:01,529
these claims are still ridiculous and

975
00:37:06,469 --> 00:37:04,219
sure you can't leap from that to

976
00:37:09,019 --> 00:37:06,479
assassination there are other questions

977
00:37:11,299 --> 00:37:09,029
that would have as a person playing

978
00:37:13,969 --> 00:37:11,309
devil's advocate like why is Rose

979
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:13,979
McGowan still alive like why are certain

980
00:37:19,009 --> 00:37:16,859
people who are more influential in this

981
00:37:21,499 --> 00:37:19,019
Weinstein investigation still kicking

982
00:37:24,289 --> 00:37:21,509
and he isn't and we don't have those

983
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:24,299
answers but in terms of building a case

984
00:37:29,209 --> 00:37:27,690
for something fishy going on I mean I

985
00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:29,219
think a lot of these threads that you've

986
00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:31,380
pointed out are worth considering I mean

987
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:33,150
we're not professional investigators why

988
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:33,609
are

989
00:37:39,059 --> 00:37:36,640
professional investigators not open to

990
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:39,069
these threads I think they are

991
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:41,920
definitely worth putting on the pile

992
00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:44,710
yeah there's just so many weird things

993
00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:46,900
that in the amount of time they decided

994
00:37:50,309 --> 00:37:48,190
that there was nothing worth

995
00:37:53,759 --> 00:37:50,319
investigating I mean it was bizarre to

996
00:37:56,339 --> 00:37:53,769
me honestly agreed so let's switch gears

997
00:37:58,229 --> 00:37:56,349
and talk about Kate Spade I honestly

998
00:37:59,759 --> 00:37:58,239
thought it was a little silly when

999
00:38:02,130 --> 00:37:59,769
people started saying there was a

1000
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:02,140
conspiracy here but then I thought about

1001
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:04,089
the clothing industry most of the

1002
00:38:07,549 --> 00:38:05,380
products are made in third-world

1003
00:38:10,259 --> 00:38:07,559
countries she has a worldwide

1004
00:38:13,410 --> 00:38:10,269
distribution network these things are

1005
00:38:15,299 --> 00:38:13,420
worth considering yeah but I also found

1006
00:38:18,269 --> 00:38:15,309
some curious things about her beginnings

1007
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:18,279
not so much with her family but when she

1008
00:38:23,279 --> 00:38:20,410
launched her first products the symbols

1009
00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:23,289
on them were owls and devil tales which

1010
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:25,900
is curious but also after only being in

1011
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:27,880
business for three years Neiman Marcus

1012
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:31,599
bought 53% of the company for 33 million

1013
00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:34,569
dollars well was it really worth 33

1014
00:38:38,759 --> 00:38:36,940
million or is this a signal that she was

1015
00:38:40,829 --> 00:38:38,769
in the club or that some prominent

1016
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:40,839
freemason was throwing a bone to someone

1017
00:38:46,529 --> 00:38:43,210
lower on the ladder and I don't know but

1018
00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:46,539
you know tie this you scratch my back

1019
00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:48,700
I'll scratch yours element in and maybe

1020
00:38:52,319 --> 00:38:50,680
there were some things going on below

1021
00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:52,329
the surface of the company I wouldn't

1022
00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:54,190
rule it out yeah I hadn't heard that

1023
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:55,420
that's the interesting piece of the

1024
00:39:00,900 --> 00:38:58,690
puzzle Kate Spade died three days prior

1025
00:39:03,269 --> 00:39:00,910
to Bourdain so I mean it's pretty tight

1026
00:39:05,759 --> 00:39:03,279
cluster and I never really heard of her

1027
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,769
before she died to be honest but she was

1028
00:39:10,319 --> 00:39:07,599
married to David Spade's brother you

1029
00:39:13,499 --> 00:39:10,329
know David Spade on SNL and just shoot

1030
00:39:15,870 --> 00:39:13,509
me and on it so his brother was Kate

1031
00:39:17,849 --> 00:39:15,880
Bates husband and that's where she got

1032
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:17,859
lost in spades so she knows it's David

1033
00:39:21,479 --> 00:39:19,569
Spade there's just a lot of things

1034
00:39:24,029 --> 00:39:21,489
around her death like she died by

1035
00:39:28,019 --> 00:39:24,039
hanging from a doorknob as well but with

1036
00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:28,029
a red scarf which is not really strong

1037
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:31,390
material usually it's also rare that

1038
00:39:36,269 --> 00:39:33,220
women killed themselves by hanging much

1039
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:36,279
less rich women Pharmaceuticals are much

1040
00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:38,890
more common for women attempting suicide

1041
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:43,380
and I've read a statistic only 23% of

1042
00:39:47,370 --> 00:39:45,369
successful female suicides are by

1043
00:39:50,190 --> 00:39:47,380
hanging so it's like a

1044
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,200
and for and for males it's about 25% as

1045
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:52,720
well so it's a somewhat common method

1046
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:54,910
but it's like one in force but not super

1047
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:56,890
common that's across the whole

1048
00:40:02,910 --> 00:39:58,720
population you know I was a millionaire

1049
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:02,920
I probably would pick a better way then

1050
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:05,440
there was the oddness of two days after

1051
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:08,110
she was killed the husband this is

1052
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:10,330
something the conspiracy theory forums

1053
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:11,920
really like to focus on but the husband

1054
00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:15,370
exited their house in a plastic mouse

1055
00:40:21,060 --> 00:40:18,790
mask from the movie rescuers and I don't

1056
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:21,070
know if he was just trying to cover up

1057
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:24,670
his face cuz you know he was emotionally

1058
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:26,110
distraught and just didn't want pictures

1059
00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:28,930
taken but this mask he was wearing it

1060
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:31,990
had a red neck cloth like a red scarf I

1061
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:33,720
guess it's a turtleneck on the character

1062
00:40:39,060 --> 00:40:36,790
it's just kind of strange and it's from

1063
00:40:42,930 --> 00:40:39,070
this Disney movie the rescuers which is

1064
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:42,940
in 1977 or something and they just have

1065
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:44,590
had that masked mouse sitting around I

1066
00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:46,510
guess and wore it out of the house the

1067
00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:48,760
first time he went out of the house yeah

1068
00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:50,920
it's very creepy I mean people who

1069
00:40:54,570 --> 00:40:52,600
haven't seen the mask just look up the

1070
00:40:57,630 --> 00:40:54,580
picture of him wearing it I mean this is

1071
00:40:58,260 --> 00:40:57,640
a odd thing to do when your wife was

1072
00:41:01,830 --> 00:40:58,270
just killed

1073
00:41:04,050 --> 00:41:01,840
yeah it just seemed very strange this is

1074
00:41:06,270 --> 00:41:04,060
just kind of a bizarre probably

1075
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:06,280
coincidence but four months before she

1076
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:08,970
died her latest fashion adventure

1077
00:41:14,730 --> 00:41:12,670
advertising campaign was where is Kate

1078
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:14,740
and the whole thing is like Kate Spade

1079
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:16,690
is missing and they're like trying to

1080
00:41:20,610 --> 00:41:18,190
find her and her husband is like the

1081
00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:20,620
detectives in the ad trying to find her

1082
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:23,800
and she's missing and gone and that was

1083
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:25,150
that campaign they were running for

1084
00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:28,810
months before she died which is odd then

1085
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:31,180
another odd thing is her father died on

1086
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:34,690
the eve of her funeral so what yeah he

1087
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:38,530
was 89 years old but her father died the

1088
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:40,030
day before they were going to bury her

1089
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:42,040
but I could imagine that being like a

1090
00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:44,730
heartbreak thing and the guy was old and

1091
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:47,500
it must be tough but it's kind of odd

1092
00:41:52,650 --> 00:41:50,170
yeah it also could be silencing someone

1093
00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:52,660
who you think might be prone to speak

1094
00:41:58,740 --> 00:41:55,150
out irrationally with nothing to lose

1095
00:42:00,810 --> 00:41:58,750
very publicly at a Funeral perhaps yep

1096
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:00,820
that could very well be

1097
00:42:04,590 --> 00:42:02,530
she did however leave behind a note

1098
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,600
unlike Bourdain Bourdain didn't leave a

1099
00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:06,880
note but Kate Spade did leave a note and

1100
00:42:10,590 --> 00:42:09,070
the only part I saw was to her daughter

1101
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:10,600
she was just saying you know this is not

1102
00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:12,040
your fault this had nothing to do with

1103
00:42:14,850 --> 00:42:12,580
you

1104
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:14,860
so don't worry about it so there was a

1105
00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:16,960
note I'm like Bourdain so it seemed to

1106
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,430
have a little bit more planning or at

1107
00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:21,040
least appearance of it yeah it said this

1108
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:22,300
is not your fault

1109
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:25,960
ask daddy oh really yeah which you know

1110
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:27,490
a lot of people have tried to say that's

1111
00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:29,500
some kind of pedo code I think it very

1112
00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:31,840
literally is this is not your fault

1113
00:42:35,550 --> 00:42:33,820
ask your father he'll tell you he'll

1114
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:35,560
confirm that it's not your fault

1115
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:38,920
yeah but you know ask daddy also kind of

1116
00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:42,370
makes it seem like hey there's more to

1117
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:44,470
know and if you ask your dad you might

1118
00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:47,530
eventually find out right that can very

1119
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:49,990
well be and then the investigation was a

1120
00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:53,200
lot NYPD was the sole investigator and

1121
00:42:57,690 --> 00:42:55,870
it was announced it was a suicide before

1122
00:42:59,100 --> 00:42:57,700
they even interviewed the husband so

1123
00:43:01,200 --> 00:42:59,110
they hadn't even interviewed the husband

1124
00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:01,210
at all and they decided it was a suicide

1125
00:43:06,270 --> 00:43:04,660
basically I guess the note and the scarf

1126
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:06,280
by the doorknob was convincing enough

1127
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,280
for the NYPD or the NYPD got paid to

1128
00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:10,480
look the other way that's also a

1129
00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:12,070
possibility but then you're starting to

1130
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,750
introduce more co-conspirators and

1131
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:15,760
that's much harder to control so it's

1132
00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:17,290
probably much more likely that they just

1133
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:18,820
made it look like a very convincing

1134
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:21,970
suicide if it wasn't murder also

1135
00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:23,770
interesting is Spade had partnered with

1136
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:25,780
the Clinton Foundation on at least two

1137
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:28,690
major projects so Kate Spade had helped

1138
00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:30,880
design a media campaign for the Clinton

1139
00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:33,790
Foundation snow sealing initiative she

1140
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:36,060
also worked with the Clintons in Haiti

1141
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:38,290
sending a representative deal with

1142
00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:40,450
Haitian business owners on the Clintons

1143
00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:44,080
behalf ah so she was a front for the

1144
00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:46,600
Clintons in Haiti which is a very

1145
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:49,390
interesting thing there's been human

1146
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:51,970
trafficking issues through Haiti and the

1147
00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:54,610
Clintons have been caught associating

1148
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:56,140
with these types of things

1149
00:44:00,420 --> 00:43:58,810
haha there might be a lot there to dig

1150
00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:00,430
into I mean there's just so much here I

1151
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:02,680
wish I could dig completely to bedrock

1152
00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:05,110
on all of these but I hope someone

1153
00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:06,550
listening you know maybe it will take a

1154
00:44:10,290 --> 00:44:08,740
little more initiative and look into

1155
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,300
this one part of it because I really

1156
00:44:13,330 --> 00:44:12,400
think there's a lot there right and

1157
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:13,340
clearly we are

1158
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:15,530
speculating we're just going through the

1159
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:17,990
case to be made that there's more here

1160
00:44:22,510 --> 00:44:20,210
than the surface story and it really

1161
00:44:25,060 --> 00:44:22,520
does get under my skin when I hear

1162
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,070
people dismissing the conspiratorial

1163
00:44:29,530 --> 00:44:27,200
perspective and they say oh yeah so

1164
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:29,540
these people think that Hillary Clinton

1165
00:44:33,790 --> 00:44:31,250
was running a pedophile Network out of a

1166
00:44:35,470 --> 00:44:33,800
ping-pong shop or these people think

1167
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:35,480
that Hillary Clinton killed Kate Spade

1168
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:38,240
and it's like no you're being a little

1169
00:44:42,490 --> 00:44:40,430
disingenuous there we're talking about a

1170
00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:42,500
network and the only reason Clinton is

1171
00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:44,270
so involved is because it's her name on

1172
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:46,790
the foundation right you know her and

1173
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:48,830
Bill obviously they're they're a duo

1174
00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:51,440
they're a team and it's like there's a

1175
00:44:56,170 --> 00:44:53,030
lot of players involved that we don't

1176
00:44:58,210 --> 00:44:56,180
know right so it all leads back to the

1177
00:45:00,580 --> 00:44:58,220
Clintons but that doesn't mean that we

1178
00:45:03,010 --> 00:45:00,590
think that they physically committed

1179
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:03,020
some murder or even that they ordered it

1180
00:45:06,490 --> 00:45:04,370
themselves it could have been like a

1181
00:45:08,350 --> 00:45:06,500
subordinate who ordered the hit you know

1182
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:08,360
right it could be like she's like oh I

1183
00:45:11,380 --> 00:45:09,890
don't like these people and those

1184
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:11,390
subordinates like well I'm gonna take

1185
00:45:15,970 --> 00:45:13,850
care of that and then hires a hit man or

1186
00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:15,980
something you know we have no idea like

1187
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:17,630
the organizational structure of how

1188
00:45:22,750 --> 00:45:20,060
something like this would come to be and

1189
00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:22,760
then also I'm totally not discounting

1190
00:45:27,340 --> 00:45:25,070
the idea that these actually just were

1191
00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:27,350
suicides it's totally possible as well

1192
00:45:32,530 --> 00:45:30,350
mm-hmm but I really think there's not

1193
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:32,540
enough discussion about the potential

1194
00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:35,570
with their murderers I agree that's what

1195
00:45:40,510 --> 00:45:37,640
we're doing right exactly

1196
00:45:42,310 --> 00:45:40,520
and I do think that last point just

1197
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:42,320
about partnering with the Clinton

1198
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,630
Foundation that's important partnering

1199
00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:46,240
with the Clinton Foundation in Haiti

1200
00:45:50,890 --> 00:45:48,860
specifically that's very important

1201
00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:50,900
definitely worth noting and those are

1202
00:45:57,790 --> 00:45:53,960
kind of the capstone arguments to the

1203
00:46:00,850 --> 00:45:57,800
Kate Spade element and let's maybe fold

1204
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:00,860
in the Dutch Queen's sister I really

1205
00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:02,510
haven't dug much into this one I'm

1206
00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:04,190
curious what you found in the details

1207
00:46:10,030 --> 00:46:07,160
here that make you skeptical that there

1208
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:10,040
might be a deeper story so first of all

1209
00:46:14,980 --> 00:46:11,330
the timing is weird

1210
00:46:17,830 --> 00:46:14,990
the Dutch Queen is named Maxima and it's

1211
00:46:20,290 --> 00:46:17,840
Maxima sister that died so she died on

1212
00:46:22,270 --> 00:46:20,300
June 7th and Kate Spade down on the

1213
00:46:24,730 --> 00:46:22,280
fifth and Anthony Bourdain died on the

1214
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:24,740
8th so it's right in between those two

1215
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:27,200
so it's a very tight three

1216
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:29,810
a span that alone is interesting and

1217
00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:31,730
then she was also found dead by hanging

1218
00:46:36,730 --> 00:46:34,310
from a doorknob which seems to connect

1219
00:46:39,010 --> 00:46:36,740
with these other ones you know it's hard

1220
00:46:40,990 --> 00:46:39,020
to tell what the motivation is it could

1221
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:41,000
have been suicide as well she was a

1222
00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:42,079
civil servant working for the

1223
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:44,750
Argentinean government since 2016 so she

1224
00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:46,880
lived in Argentina even though she was

1225
00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:49,670
related to the Dutch royal family so

1226
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:50,990
she's been living in Argentina for a

1227
00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:52,550
while and she worked at the United

1228
00:46:58,089 --> 00:46:54,950
Nations headquarters in Panama for a

1229
00:47:00,700 --> 00:46:58,099
while but returned to Argentina then her

1230
00:47:04,569 --> 00:47:00,710
death this is another interesting tidbit

1231
00:47:06,970 --> 00:47:04,579
her father died 10 months before she

1232
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:06,980
died and her father was the ruling King

1233
00:47:12,339 --> 00:47:10,130
I believe so the King died and then she

1234
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:12,349
died soon after so it kind of looks like

1235
00:47:17,740 --> 00:47:14,690
a lot of royal coos you know you'll see

1236
00:47:19,870 --> 00:47:17,750
once the leader dies the next people in

1237
00:47:21,790 --> 00:47:19,880
line might be taken out so that someone

1238
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:21,800
can jump a few spots and become king you

1239
00:47:26,740 --> 00:47:24,290
know that's a common type of coup so

1240
00:47:28,839 --> 00:47:26,750
it's possible something like that could

1241
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:28,849
have happened and then get this her

1242
00:47:33,069 --> 00:47:31,369
father was in the Videla government and

1243
00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:33,079
should another one's but her

1244
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:34,940
brother-in-law who's now the Dutch King

1245
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:38,210
is the grandson of the Bilderberg Group

1246
00:47:44,829 --> 00:47:42,319
founder Prince Bernhard huh who is an

1247
00:47:47,950 --> 00:47:44,839
extremely well-connected person so the

1248
00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:47,960
current Dutch King is the grandson of

1249
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:50,750
the founder of Bilderberg that's her

1250
00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:52,940
brother-in-law you can see there's

1251
00:47:55,450 --> 00:47:54,470
obviously like a lot of very high up

1252
00:47:56,980 --> 00:47:55,460
connections and they're probably

1253
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:56,990
connected with the Rothschilds was well

1254
00:48:01,150 --> 00:47:59,210
being that they're European royalty so

1255
00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:01,160
there's all these very high connections

1256
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:02,990
so there's a lot of highly motivated

1257
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:05,240
people and there's a lot of power at

1258
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,790
stake so it does seem reasonable to at

1259
00:48:12,130 --> 00:48:09,440
least investigate the possibility that

1260
00:48:14,829 --> 00:48:12,140
this is a murder mm-hmm we also saw that

1261
00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:14,839
shuffling of the Saudi royal family -

1262
00:48:18,819 --> 00:48:16,940
it's very strange I mean there are a lot

1263
00:48:20,770 --> 00:48:18,829
of pieces on the chessboard that are

1264
00:48:22,809 --> 00:48:20,780
moving right now and it seems like for

1265
00:48:26,530 --> 00:48:22,819
most of our life if you're in your 30s

1266
00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:26,540
it's been kind of OneNote I mean there's

1267
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:28,460
been these controllers will switch from

1268
00:48:32,890 --> 00:48:30,410
Bush to Clinton to Bush nothing's

1269
00:48:35,530 --> 00:48:32,900
changing and there does seem to be a lot

1270
00:48:38,740 --> 00:48:35,540
of shuffling now that wasn't going on

1271
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:38,750
through most of my life I agree we're

1272
00:48:40,740 --> 00:48:40,250
seeing a lot of royal families starting

1273
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:40,750
to mover

1274
00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:42,250
now and a lot of people who are in their

1275
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:45,160
80s and 90s starting to finally pass the

1276
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:46,930
chain of command is changing in a lot of

1277
00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:48,160
countries and yeah it's an interesting

1278
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:50,080
thing to watch but it is causing a lot

1279
00:48:56,070 --> 00:48:54,400
of shake ups indeed so Avicii is another

1280
00:48:59,010 --> 00:48:56,080
one we might want to add to the pile

1281
00:49:01,440 --> 00:48:59,020
it's another well he's a guy I didn't

1282
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,450
really look much into not really a fan

1283
00:49:05,940 --> 00:49:03,520
of that kind of music but still you laid

1284
00:49:07,290 --> 00:49:05,950
out some very interesting details to me

1285
00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:07,300
that make a pretty good case there's a

1286
00:49:11,370 --> 00:49:09,070
deeper story tell us about Avicii

1287
00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:11,380
so those three deaths we just talked

1288
00:49:15,540 --> 00:49:13,360
about were in June and if we jump back

1289
00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:15,550
like a month and a half to April 20th

1290
00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:18,790
that's the day of each he died 4/20 yeah

1291
00:49:25,140 --> 00:49:22,780
4/20 and he was 28 years old he's quite

1292
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,150
young well as interesting as he died in

1293
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:27,520
the country of Oman which is in the

1294
00:49:31,950 --> 00:49:29,410
Middle East so apparently he was like on

1295
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:31,960
tour on vacation or something in Oman

1296
00:49:35,850 --> 00:49:34,240
which is just south of Saudi Arabia it's

1297
00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:35,860
right by Yemen and Saudi Arabia it's

1298
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:37,750
actually quite a developed nice country

1299
00:49:42,570 --> 00:49:40,090
because the oil reserves but anyways he

1300
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:42,580
was staying in Oman and they found him

1301
00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:45,130
in his hotel room the next day there was

1302
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:47,620
like half a bottle of wine drank and

1303
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:50,530
then the blind bottle was shattered and

1304
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:53,110
then the pieces of the wine bottle had

1305
00:49:58,830 --> 00:49:55,510
apparently been used to cut his face and

1306
00:50:01,650 --> 00:49:58,840
neck so the story is that he drank half

1307
00:50:03,810 --> 00:50:01,660
a bottle of wine shattered it and then

1308
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:03,820
cut his own face and neck with the glass

1309
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:06,490
shards until he bled to death that's the

1310
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,970
official story which is just bizarre who

1311
00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:11,440
would do that unless they were out of

1312
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:13,540
their mind I mean that doesn't make

1313
00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:16,420
sense to me so there were two autopsies

1314
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:19,180
the day after he died and immediately

1315
00:50:23,730 --> 00:50:21,970
ruled no foul play this story also

1316
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:23,740
changed he was in a hotel room

1317
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:25,510
originally and then later they said he

1318
00:50:30,270 --> 00:50:28,450
was in a farmhouse so they were kind of

1319
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:30,280
having consistency problems with the

1320
00:50:34,350 --> 00:50:32,650
story as it came out and as far as the

1321
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:34,360
reasoning why people might want to do

1322
00:50:38,370 --> 00:50:36,550
this I don't know if you hear Washington

1323
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:38,380
beat you music video but you should

1324
00:50:43,350 --> 00:50:40,720
watch this one he has it came out two

1325
00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:43,360
years before he died it's called for a

1326
00:50:50,070 --> 00:50:46,630
better day I mean in no uncertain terms

1327
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:50,080
it's a video about sex trafficking of

1328
00:50:53,790 --> 00:50:52,510
children and those children escaping and

1329
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:53,800
growing up and going back and

1330
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:56,170
killing everyone who bought them as a

1331
00:51:02,310 --> 00:50:59,170
sex slave huh I mean it is extremely

1332
00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:02,320
graphic it is like about up

1333
00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:03,430
these people who were in these

1334
00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:05,640
children's lives it's a very emotional

1335
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:08,470
straightforward video and there's some

1336
00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:11,310
allegations that he was perhaps

1337
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:13,660
unfortunately part of this type of

1338
00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:15,070
structure you know when he was younger

1339
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:18,190
and so he's stepping forward to call it

1340
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:20,410
out and shed some light on it basically

1341
00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:22,210
and this video is one way of him doing

1342
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:24,760
that some say that's the reason he was

1343
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:26,170
silenced is because he started getting

1344
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:28,630
too outspoken about this particular

1345
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:32,290
topic hmm one other thing I wanted to

1346
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:33,910
throw out there just about his career

1347
00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:36,370
you know I'm not the most knowledgeable

1348
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:38,470
about the guy but apparently a year

1349
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,110
prior in March on March 29th

1350
00:51:46,110 --> 00:51:42,960
specifically he announced his retirement

1351
00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:46,120
even though he wasn't even 30 years old

1352
00:51:52,650 --> 00:51:50,590
and his people statement said stardom is

1353
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:52,660
psychologically and physically difficult

1354
00:51:57,390 --> 00:51:54,730
for any artist especially in the

1355
00:51:59,310 --> 00:51:57,400
fast-paced and often hedonistic world of

1356
00:52:02,970 --> 00:51:59,320
dance music and his retirement is the

1357
00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:02,980
result of complete overwork and that's

1358
00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:05,260
interesting I mean a year before he was

1359
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:05,740
killed

1360
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:06,970
or before year before he committed

1361
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:09,610
suicide he retired and I've read a lot

1362
00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:12,610
of kind of mainstream arguments about

1363
00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:15,160
his death and that he had severe drug

1364
00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:17,470
and alcohol abuse problems and that

1365
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:19,600
could have led to his death I've heard

1366
00:52:23,070 --> 00:52:21,370
that about the alcoholism for sure he

1367
00:52:25,620 --> 00:52:23,080
definitely had an alcohol problem and

1368
00:52:27,630 --> 00:52:25,630
that's worth noting but it's also worth

1369
00:52:30,450 --> 00:52:27,640
noting that here's another death of a

1370
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:30,460
person who as you say in this video for

1371
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:33,970
a better day is drawing attention to

1372
00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:36,850
child trafficking networks I mean how

1373
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:38,380
many people are really doing that not a

1374
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:41,530
whole lot right and I mean this video

1375
00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:45,570
for a better day it got 65 million views

1376
00:52:53,790 --> 00:52:50,260
this guy has reach global reach among

1377
00:52:56,430 --> 00:52:53,800
young people too and I think they saw

1378
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:56,440
that or intimidated by that it's just a

1379
00:53:01,020 --> 00:52:59,680
very sad thing one thing I'd like to say

1380
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:01,030
is that with talking about these

1381
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:03,130
suicides some people will say to me that

1382
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:05,650
I'm being disrespectful to these people

1383
00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:07,410
by talking about

1384
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:09,180
the circumstances surrounding their

1385
00:53:14,210 --> 00:53:10,920
suicide or questioning the fact that it

1386
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:14,220
was a suicide and I really see it as the

1387
00:53:18,019 --> 00:53:15,930
opposite I think I'm really being

1388
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:18,029
respectful by looking into these things

1389
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:20,250
I know if I was murdered and it was

1390
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:22,650
framed as a suicide I would sure as heck

1391
00:53:26,329 --> 00:53:24,450
want people to look into it and not just

1392
00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:26,339
go like oh he was depressed we can't

1393
00:53:30,829 --> 00:53:28,380
understand depression and suicide

1394
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:30,839
therefore let's not even try you know

1395
00:53:35,630 --> 00:53:33,660
let's not look into this at all I think

1396
00:53:38,660 --> 00:53:35,640
that's the emotional reaction that they

1397
00:53:40,279 --> 00:53:38,670
rely on for people to not look into

1398
00:53:43,609 --> 00:53:40,289
these things is like right you're

1399
00:53:45,980 --> 00:53:43,619
somehow honoring the dead by ignoring

1400
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:45,990
the reality and I think that's bullcrap

1401
00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:47,910
yeah they'll tell you the same thing

1402
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:50,190
about Sandy Hook or 9/11 that it's

1403
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:52,470
disrespectful to the Dead to even

1404
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:54,750
suggest there could be foul play it just

1405
00:53:58,849 --> 00:53:56,130
doesn't make sense I don't think that

1406
00:53:59,900 --> 00:53:58,859
argument connects at all right and I

1407
00:54:02,269 --> 00:53:59,910
mean it's one thing if you're like

1408
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:02,279
harassing family members of someone who

1409
00:54:06,349 --> 00:54:04,410
died or whatever that's not cool if

1410
00:54:07,730 --> 00:54:06,359
we're just talking about the facts and

1411
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:07,740
like trying to have a reasonable

1412
00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:09,930
conversation about possibilities then I

1413
00:54:14,930 --> 00:54:12,660
see no problem and I don't think that

1414
00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:14,940
should be discouraged at all I agree

1415
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:17,369
cheers to that yeah it's interesting to

1416
00:54:20,450 --> 00:54:18,420
see how many people want to shut down

1417
00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:20,460
discussions for emotional reasons though

1418
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:23,670
right and there was another name on the

1419
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:25,470
list that you told me we should maybe

1420
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,640
talk about elrond Scott yeah so there's

1421
00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:31,680
this person Elron Scott former

1422
00:54:36,759 --> 00:54:34,740
girlfriend of Nate Rothschild was found

1423
00:54:38,210 --> 00:54:36,769
at the age of 49 dead in her apartment

1424
00:54:42,049 --> 00:54:38,220
by hanging

1425
00:54:44,259 --> 00:54:42,059
she died in 2014 no note so this is

1426
00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:44,269
someone you know dated Nate Rothschild

1427
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:47,190
eventually came up dead in Manhattan at

1428
00:54:52,609 --> 00:54:49,529
49 years old by hanging so I don't know

1429
00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:52,619
much more than that about her but just

1430
00:54:56,809 --> 00:54:54,839
another hanging of the upper-class worth

1431
00:54:58,839 --> 00:54:56,819
mentioning it's and directly connected

1432
00:55:01,880 --> 00:54:58,849
to the Rothschilds on top of it so

1433
00:55:03,859 --> 00:55:01,890
that's interesting there's a couple more

1434
00:55:07,069 --> 00:55:03,869
here ever heard about Chris Cornell and

1435
00:55:08,420 --> 00:55:07,079
Chester Bennington yes yeah I didn't

1436
00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:08,430
really know much about that until I was

1437
00:55:12,859 --> 00:55:10,859
doing research for this podcast but man

1438
00:55:15,529 --> 00:55:12,869
Chris Cornell is the founder and

1439
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:15,539
guitarist for the band Soundgarden he

1440
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:16,890
was found unconscious by his bodyguard

1441
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,930
hanging from the doorknob in the

1442
00:55:24,170 --> 00:55:20,400
bathroom of this hotel

1443
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:24,180
at the MGM Grand in Detroit in May 2017

1444
00:55:29,060 --> 00:55:27,210
so police ruled out homicide by rigging

1445
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,070
a hotel surveillance video which showed

1446
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:31,680
no one entering or leaving after his

1447
00:55:36,860 --> 00:55:35,130
bodyguard left at 11:35 p.m. and Kristen

1448
00:55:38,570 --> 00:55:36,870
has why set up a charity event called

1449
00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:38,580
the chris and vicki cornell foundation

1450
00:55:43,550 --> 00:55:40,680
which works to help victims of child

1451
00:55:45,140 --> 00:55:43,560
abuse that's what it's about and on top

1452
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:45,150
of that chris cornell was working with

1453
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:46,770
lincoln park singer chester bennington

1454
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:49,290
and they were working together to expose

1455
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:51,450
elite pedophile rings like they had a

1456
00:55:59,150 --> 00:55:55,290
dedicated mission to do that exactly so

1457
00:56:01,970 --> 00:55:59,160
chris cornell died may 2017 and then two

1458
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:01,980
months later lincoln park singer that he

1459
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,300
was cooperating with Chester Bennington

1460
00:56:08,450 --> 00:56:06,000
also found dead in his home in

1461
00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:08,460
California so also hanging from a

1462
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:12,750
doorknob on July 20th 2017 so that's

1463
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:14,610
just really up so it's like the

1464
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:17,460
two of them finally pair up to go after

1465
00:56:20,990 --> 00:56:19,110
this thing and they have this Charitable

1466
00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:21,000
Foundation with his wife and then he

1467
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:22,830
dies and then immediately two months

1468
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:24,960
later daily guy dies that's that's not

1469
00:56:30,050 --> 00:56:28,170
so many alarm bells to me mm-hm and then

1470
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:30,060
a lot of people might not like this but

1471
00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:32,910
Robin Williams also died in his home

1472
00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:36,300
2014 the County Sheriff's Office deputy

1473
00:56:40,670 --> 00:56:38,670
coroner was the investigator and stated

1474
00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:40,680
that he'd hang himself and he was found

1475
00:56:45,380 --> 00:56:42,420
hanging from a doorknob with a necktie

1476
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:45,390
and I knew he died from hanging but it

1477
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:48,570
was it was from a doorknob so we can

1478
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:50,250
maybe add Robin Williams to it because

1479
00:56:54,830 --> 00:56:52,050
his death was extremely sudden and

1480
00:56:56,570 --> 00:56:54,840
unexpected and even if he had Lewy body

1481
00:56:58,250 --> 00:56:56,580
dementia or something like that it was

1482
00:57:00,530 --> 00:56:58,260
said he had a degenerative marrow

1483
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:00,540
disease and he was basically nipping it

1484
00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:02,850
in the bud by killing himself early but

1485
00:57:07,310 --> 00:57:05,550
you know it's like it's just so sudden

1486
00:57:09,890 --> 00:57:07,320
and he seems like a guy who's like

1487
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:09,900
fairly open and outspoken about stuff

1488
00:57:13,580 --> 00:57:11,370
and you know I could see him going like

1489
00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:13,590
a Michael J Fox kind of route where it's

1490
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:15,870
like he could be a popularizer of that

1491
00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:18,090
disease and it's definitely possible

1492
00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:19,710
they killed himself but I think it's

1493
00:57:24,140 --> 00:57:21,360
interesting that he was hanging from a

1494
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:24,150
necktie from a doorknob which matches

1495
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:26,850
all these others so mm-hmm and then

1496
00:57:30,540 --> 00:57:29,040
there's a couple more fashion designer

1497
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:30,550
Alexander McQueen

1498
00:57:36,510 --> 00:57:33,910
he died 2010 down hanging from a

1499
00:57:38,430 --> 00:57:36,520
doorknob at his home in Greene Street

1500
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:38,440
London so that's another high-profile

1501
00:57:43,050 --> 00:57:39,850
fashion designer and just like Kate

1502
00:57:44,730 --> 00:57:43,060
Spade another one is David Carradine you

1503
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:44,740
probably recognize his face if you saw

1504
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:46,540
him he's in a lot of TV shows and movies

1505
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:49,170
but police official in Thailand found

1506
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:51,730
Carradine hanging by a rope tied to the

1507
00:57:57,300 --> 00:57:54,250
doorknob of his rooms closet but he was

1508
00:57:59,400 --> 00:57:57,310
found naked as well so I guess that was

1509
00:58:02,000 --> 00:57:59,410
justification to rolled out it was

1510
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:02,010
suicide and they did two autopsies and

1511
00:58:05,490 --> 00:58:04,870
both concluded that the death was not a

1512
00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:05,500
suicide

1513
00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:08,470
huh so investigators concluded it was

1514
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:10,270
not a suicide but then I think the

1515
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:12,310
police treated it as a suicide and then

1516
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:13,750
it just was left hanging like that

1517
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:17,170
and then lastly reddit co-founder Aaron

1518
00:58:22,380 --> 00:58:20,530
Swartz was killed in 2013 while he

1519
00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:22,390
supposedly committed suicide but I think

1520
00:58:28,410 --> 00:58:26,440
he was killed and he was hanged from a

1521
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:28,420
doorknob again and no suicide note was

1522
00:58:34,110 --> 00:58:31,450
found and he was one of the kind of a

1523
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:34,120
moral backbone of Reddit and this is

1524
00:58:38,670 --> 00:58:36,370
when read it was really reaching peak

1525
00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:38,680
popularity and it was starting to get a

1526
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:40,990
lot of attention by big media companies

1527
00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:43,570
and by don't sure like the CIA and

1528
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:45,190
agencies who try and control media

1529
00:58:48,690 --> 00:58:46,810
messaging they of course want to control

1530
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:48,700
websites that are in the top undred or

1531
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:50,410
whatever because those websites have a

1532
00:58:54,270 --> 00:58:52,480
lot of reach so I get the impression

1533
00:58:56,130 --> 00:58:54,280
that they were able to buy out or

1534
00:58:58,620 --> 00:58:56,140
otherwise persuade the other members

1535
00:59:01,110 --> 00:58:58,630
that founded reddit but Aaron Swartz was

1536
00:59:05,070 --> 00:59:01,120
extremely moral had a strong backbone

1537
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:05,080
and refused to compromise and I think

1538
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:07,870
that ended up getting him suicided

1539
00:59:13,350 --> 00:59:10,690
basically very well could be and of

1540
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:13,360
course you just listed some added deaths

1541
00:59:18,540 --> 00:59:16,240
that go back 8 years but it's really

1542
00:59:20,730 --> 00:59:18,550
just to note the odd similarities of the

1543
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:20,740
hanging from the doorknob specifically

1544
00:59:27,570 --> 00:59:23,050
but in these more recent cases this

1545
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:27,580
latest cluster it almost seems like you

1546
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:29,290
could paint a picture that when Clinton

1547
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:31,450
was defeated in the election a lot of

1548
00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:34,650
people who thought there was an ironclad

1549
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:37,270
grip of control over this whole

1550
00:59:44,819 --> 00:59:39,760
situation some of the people who maybe

1551
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:44,829
are a little bit more guilt stricken or

1552
00:59:50,459 --> 00:59:47,920
more outspoken or a little morally have

1553
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:50,469
a little more moral fortitude they might

1554
00:59:54,539 --> 00:59:52,329
have thought okay now we can come out

1555
00:59:57,150 --> 00:59:54,549
and speak out look at all these dominoes

1556
00:59:59,789 --> 00:59:57,160
that are falling and then as soon as you

1557
01:00:01,769 --> 00:59:59,799
start to speak out you realize oh the

1558
01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:01,779
network hasn't completely lost all its

1559
01:00:06,089 --> 01:00:03,400
power in fact it's still trying to

1560
01:00:09,299 --> 01:00:06,099
preserve itself and silence the critics

1561
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:09,309
and quarantine its crimes I think that

1562
01:00:13,319 --> 01:00:11,200
is a case that could definitely be made

1563
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:13,329
yeah I wouldn't be surprised if it was

1564
01:00:17,579 --> 01:00:15,130
kind of a limited hangout sort of

1565
01:00:18,809 --> 01:00:17,589
approach where people got caught and

1566
01:00:20,910 --> 01:00:18,819
then they're going to pretend like the

1567
01:00:22,349 --> 01:00:20,920
whole situation is solely about those

1568
01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:22,359
people and that there's nothing else

1569
01:00:27,479 --> 01:00:24,700
going on and redirect the conversation

1570
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:27,489
as such and I think that's kind of what

1571
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,930
we've been seeing is the Weinstein

1572
01:00:34,259 --> 01:00:30,640
scandal you know it's a lot deeper than

1573
01:00:36,569 --> 01:00:34,269
Weinstein it's not just some celebrities

1574
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:36,579
slept with Weinstein to get privileges

1575
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:38,319
like that's part of it but there's this

1576
01:00:43,769 --> 01:00:40,930
broader network when you start to look

1577
01:00:45,749 --> 01:00:43,779
at people like Epstein and the Clintons

1578
01:00:48,089 --> 01:00:45,759
and there's some real questionable

1579
01:00:49,999 --> 01:00:48,099
things and although they might lose

1580
01:00:52,709 --> 01:00:50,009
power on some levels there's always

1581
01:00:54,439 --> 01:00:52,719
stages of limited hangouts so the closer

1582
01:00:57,749 --> 01:00:54,449
you think you're getting to the target

1583
01:00:59,459 --> 01:00:57,759
suddenly the target moves away or

1584
01:01:01,049 --> 01:00:59,469
they'll throw out a lot of flack to

1585
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:01,059
confuse you or draw you off the main

1586
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:03,609
target right and I think that's what

1587
01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:04,930
we're seeing in the media a lot of times

1588
01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:09,150
well initially this me too thing was

1589
01:01:15,449 --> 01:01:12,430
kind of about or at least these stories

1590
01:01:17,189 --> 01:01:15,459
that were about crimes in Hollywood for

1591
01:01:20,339 --> 01:01:17,199
example Kevin Spacey they were about

1592
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:20,349
kids Kevin Spacey's taken underage kids

1593
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:23,049
out to dinner and out to parties and

1594
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:25,690
Bryan Singer the director is dealing

1595
01:01:31,439 --> 01:01:28,930
with underage kids right we also had

1596
01:01:34,289 --> 01:01:31,449
Corey Feldman speaking out again it's

1597
01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:34,299
about the kids and sure enough it's all

1598
01:01:39,089 --> 01:01:36,849
switched cuz Weinstein it's all female

1599
01:01:42,089 --> 01:01:39,099
actresses that are above the legal age

1600
01:01:44,729 --> 01:01:42,099
it's just that's the spin and then they

1601
01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:44,739
start like Louie CK jerked off in front

1602
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:46,900
of that woman and Aziz Ansari was

1603
01:01:50,609 --> 01:01:48,729
inappropriate and they're talking like

1604
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:50,619
those things are like on the same level

1605
01:01:55,979 --> 01:01:53,410
as these pedophile rings and stuff and

1606
01:01:58,500 --> 01:01:55,989
it's like no right Chris Hardwick was a

1607
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:58,510
dick to his girlfriend once in a while

1608
01:02:02,910 --> 01:02:00,400
yeah it's like this things are bad but

1609
01:02:05,550 --> 01:02:02,920
like that's not even close I mean it's

1610
01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:05,560
like a completely different it kind of

1611
01:02:09,030 --> 01:02:07,390
got over broadened like the scope of it

1612
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:09,040
got over generalized to a point where

1613
01:02:13,140 --> 01:02:11,410
it's any sexual harassment now as part

1614
01:02:15,870 --> 01:02:13,150
of the need to conversation or whatever

1615
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:15,880
and then the real solid important

1616
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:18,490
targets like the child trafficking kind

1617
01:02:22,349 --> 01:02:20,890
of gets lost in the noise basically

1618
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:22,359
because the conversation became so

1619
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:24,970
diluted mm-hmm it's the classic

1620
01:02:29,849 --> 01:02:27,730
bait-and-switch and I also wanted to ask

1621
01:02:31,650 --> 01:02:29,859
you this because my last guest you

1622
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:31,660
talked about this Jordan say there he

1623
01:02:37,830 --> 01:02:33,970
thought that you could also fold the

1624
01:02:39,090 --> 01:02:37,840
trump presidency into this story and I'm

1625
01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:39,100
just curious what are your thoughts on

1626
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:41,830
that I think totally I mean there's this

1627
01:02:47,310 --> 01:02:44,980
pictures of Clinton and Trump at the

1628
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:47,320
Trump wedding and they're friends

1629
01:02:51,359 --> 01:02:49,030
they're old buddies and Trump used to be

1630
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:51,369
a lifelong Democrat and he's an actor I

1631
01:02:56,580 --> 01:02:53,950
mean he's literally a TV actor from WWE

1632
01:02:58,620 --> 01:02:56,590
in The Apprentice and stuff he's just

1633
01:03:01,320 --> 01:02:58,630
good at being an actor and I think the

1634
01:03:03,570 --> 01:03:01,330
whole drama the Clintons versus the

1635
01:03:06,540 --> 01:03:03,580
Trump's it might be real on some level

1636
01:03:08,099 --> 01:03:06,550
but I think they control both sides I

1637
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:08,109
mean I think it's like a wrestling thing

1638
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:09,760
you've got the Undertaker and then

1639
01:03:13,530 --> 01:03:12,430
you've got another wrestler and the two

1640
01:03:15,030 --> 01:03:13,540
are fighting and it doesn't really

1641
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:15,040
matter which one you pick you're still

1642
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:18,250
watching WWE it's still part of the same

1643
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:20,770
structure it's like Pepsi versus coke

1644
01:03:26,340 --> 01:03:23,770
and I'm trying to find some water it's a

1645
01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:26,350
lot of false dichotomies like that where

1646
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:28,390
we seem to have a choice but we really

1647
01:03:31,859 --> 01:03:29,890
don't and it's kind of organized that

1648
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:31,869
way I mean I really wish the US would

1649
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:33,730
move towards a multi-party system and we

1650
01:03:38,099 --> 01:03:36,250
could maybe get out from this two-party

1651
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:38,109
thing but the way it is right now the

1652
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:39,970
system is so rigged we don't have a

1653
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:41,650
democracy we just have the appearance of

1654
01:03:47,730 --> 01:03:45,760
it mm-hmm Hickory and I mentioned this

1655
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:47,740
to you before the start of the show but

1656
01:03:53,730 --> 01:03:50,940
I've just been thinking about this big

1657
01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:53,740
conflict or coup or deep state thing

1658
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:55,150
people are talked about and it's like

1659
01:03:59,130 --> 01:03:57,609
just because there's a power struggle

1660
01:04:00,990 --> 01:03:59,140
over the slaughter house doesn't mean

1661
01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:01,000
they don't think we're all cattle you

1662
01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:02,260
know it's not like they're on our side

1663
01:04:06,270 --> 01:04:04,480
it's just if you've ever seen Game of

1664
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:06,280
Thrones there is no good guy there's

1665
01:04:10,170 --> 01:04:08,290
just a bunch of shitty people that are

1666
01:04:12,220 --> 01:04:10,180
looking for power and so yeah you

1667
01:04:14,590 --> 01:04:12,230
usurped the ol

1668
01:04:17,290 --> 01:04:14,600
power dynamic the old power structure

1669
01:04:19,420 --> 01:04:17,300
but that doesn't mean that our saviors

1670
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:19,430
finally here yeah

1671
01:04:23,830 --> 01:04:21,170
I agree completely and I've always said

1672
01:04:26,170 --> 01:04:23,840
people like Clinton and Putin have more

1673
01:04:28,450 --> 01:04:26,180
in common than you and I do with Clinton

1674
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:28,460
yeah they're playing a whole different

1675
01:04:30,609 --> 01:04:29,810
game I mean they live in a different

1676
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:30,619
world

1677
01:04:34,690 --> 01:04:33,050
where when you've got that level of

1678
01:04:36,370 --> 01:04:34,700
money and influence you're in a bubble

1679
01:04:38,050 --> 01:04:36,380
you're in a bubble of a bubble of a

1680
01:04:40,660 --> 01:04:38,060
bubble you know like you're so well

1681
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:40,670
insulated from reality if you don't want

1682
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:43,130
to see it that you can live in your own

1683
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:45,050
little kind of world and I think we're

1684
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:46,970
seeing that a lot more and when you have

1685
01:04:50,770 --> 01:04:48,310
that much money you know people are

1686
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:50,780
jumping to do what you say because they

1687
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:52,730
might get a piece of that and that's

1688
01:04:58,990 --> 01:04:54,970
where a lot of this power comes from

1689
01:05:01,690 --> 01:04:59,000
mm-hmm and I was gonna start asking you

1690
01:05:02,290 --> 01:05:01,700
about Freemasonry but that jogged in my

1691
01:05:05,770 --> 01:05:02,300
memory

1692
01:05:08,950 --> 01:05:05,780
something about Kate Spade after she

1693
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:08,960
died they released a piece about Kate

1694
01:05:12,580 --> 01:05:10,970
Spade's apartment like look at how well

1695
01:05:16,930 --> 01:05:12,590
decorated it was because you know she's

1696
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:16,940
a fashion icon and the picture is of her

1697
01:05:21,340 --> 01:05:18,650
kitchen which has a black-and-white

1698
01:05:24,010 --> 01:05:21,350
checkerboard floor and then it also has

1699
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:24,020
a black and white checkered tablecloth

1700
01:05:29,849 --> 01:05:27,170
and it's like is this just a design

1701
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:29,859
element potentially but it's also

1702
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:32,960
potentially a signal that she is a Mason

1703
01:05:37,810 --> 01:05:35,930
her company was bought early for 33

1704
01:05:40,420 --> 01:05:37,820
million dollars it did have some

1705
01:05:43,390 --> 01:05:40,430
interesting symbols at its founding yeah

1706
01:05:46,030 --> 01:05:43,400
just another log for the fireman but

1707
01:05:47,290 --> 01:05:46,040
probably worth mentioning interesting

1708
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:47,300
thing I forgot to mention to you about

1709
01:05:51,790 --> 01:05:49,430
the Dutch Queens sister she died at the

1710
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:51,800
age of 33 as well probably just a

1711
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:54,400
coincidence but there's a lot at 33

1712
01:05:58,090 --> 01:05:56,810
which is definitely a freemason number

1713
01:06:01,240 --> 01:05:58,100
because that's the top rank of

1714
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:01,250
Freemasonry right we also wanted to

1715
01:06:07,570 --> 01:06:05,090
point out that as big reddit users you

1716
01:06:10,180 --> 01:06:07,580
in particular we have seen these signs

1717
01:06:12,310 --> 01:06:10,190
that the site is compromised and really

1718
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:12,320
isn't the free form of ideas that it was

1719
01:06:16,750 --> 01:06:14,480
a few years ago and you have been

1720
01:06:18,430 --> 01:06:16,760
working on an alternative talk to us

1721
01:06:20,740 --> 01:06:18,440
about this a little bit before we call

1722
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:20,750
it in yeah so I've been developing

1723
01:06:25,070 --> 01:06:23,570
saidit dotnet you guys check it out it's

1724
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:25,080
based on the reddit 25

1725
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:26,850
teen open-source code which is the last

1726
01:06:30,380 --> 01:06:28,710
year they released the open source for

1727
01:06:33,290 --> 01:06:30,390
reddit before they made a closed source

1728
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:33,300
and I've been a longtime user of reddit

1729
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:36,330
I've been on there since 2007 I would

1730
01:06:40,550 --> 01:06:37,680
say so I've been on there like 11 years

1731
01:06:42,260 --> 01:06:40,560
and it's been interesting to see the

1732
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:42,270
change I mean the last three four years

1733
01:06:47,180 --> 01:06:44,970
especially with the 2016 election there

1734
01:06:49,550 --> 01:06:47,190
was a kind of organic Bernie Sanders

1735
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:49,560
support on the website and then there

1736
01:06:52,550 --> 01:06:51,180
was this one day a lot of people

1737
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:52,560
remember it was like a switch flipped

1738
01:06:58,430 --> 01:06:55,380
and the whole site became super pro

1739
01:07:00,250 --> 01:06:58,440
Hillary just like overnight and it

1740
01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:00,260
eventually came to light that there's a

1741
01:07:05,630 --> 01:07:03,420
messaging company called share blue that

1742
01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:05,640
worked as a propaganda arm or an

1743
01:07:10,370 --> 01:07:07,710
advertising arm for the Clinton campaign

1744
01:07:12,740 --> 01:07:10,380
and they had huge targeted online

1745
01:07:14,420 --> 01:07:12,750
campaigns as did Trump through Cambridge

1746
01:07:17,150 --> 01:07:14,430
analytic and I have a video about

1747
01:07:19,550 --> 01:07:17,160
propaganda on my mag Norris 7 channel on

1748
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:19,560
YouTube about this but yeah it's a

1749
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:21,720
problem and then reddit is divided in a

1750
01:07:25,070 --> 01:07:22,740
way where you know there's each

1751
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:25,080
subreddit is its own kind of little zone

1752
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:27,450
and it's got its own moderators and what

1753
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:29,280
has happened over the last five years is

1754
01:07:34,370 --> 01:07:31,680
the moderators of all the biggest subs

1755
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:34,380
have slowly become compromised because

1756
01:07:38,510 --> 01:07:36,480
the politics sub for example might be

1757
01:07:41,660 --> 01:07:38,520
viewed by literally 10 or a hundred

1758
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:41,670
million people and so you know that's as

1759
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:44,310
big as any TV channel so if you're the

1760
01:07:47,390 --> 01:07:46,170
moderator of just that subreddit not

1761
01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:47,400
even a vault right up it's just that

1762
01:07:51,050 --> 01:07:49,380
subreddit you can control the narrative

1763
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:51,060
like that and so it's kind of in this

1764
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:54,090
gradual take over a subreddit after

1765
01:07:57,890 --> 01:07:55,680
subreddit and they get themselves into

1766
01:07:59,960 --> 01:07:57,900
positions where they can be moderators

1767
01:08:01,730 --> 01:07:59,970
and then I guess the admins of Reddit

1768
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:01,740
have turned a blind eye to this because

1769
01:08:07,940 --> 01:08:04,410
it's quite obvious if you actually try

1770
01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:07,950
and compile evidence for it but you

1771
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:09,480
bring it to the reddit admins and

1772
01:08:14,570 --> 01:08:11,010
they're more likely to ban you for

1773
01:08:16,010 --> 01:08:14,580
bringing it up then actually go after

1774
01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:16,020
the problem yeah and I've had this

1775
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:18,420
happen personally several times and I've

1776
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:20,400
heard other people who've had the same

1777
01:08:23,780 --> 01:08:22,290
happen to them and then you get banned

1778
01:08:25,730 --> 01:08:23,790
from all these different sub rights to

1779
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:25,740
for saying the wrong thing like you know

1780
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:27,330
in the politics subreddit you've got a

1781
01:08:30,849 --> 01:08:28,890
little worked up for a second and said

1782
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:30,859
something and then you're banned forever

1783
01:08:34,490 --> 01:08:33,000
there's certain opinions that just

1784
01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:34,500
aren't allowed on certain sub reddits

1785
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:36,510
and it just creates these echo chambers

1786
01:08:42,060 --> 01:08:38,890
and it's just become very polar

1787
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:42,070
kind of echo chamber situation and you

1788
01:08:46,349 --> 01:08:44,290
can't say anything against the echo

1789
01:08:48,180 --> 01:08:46,359
chamber in the sub urine you know so it

1790
01:08:49,790 --> 01:08:48,190
kills all reasonable conversation

1791
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:49,800
because there's no middle ground and

1792
01:08:54,300 --> 01:08:52,960
that's the real problem and the Reta

1793
01:08:56,250 --> 01:08:54,310
admins have kind of turned a blind eye

1794
01:08:58,380 --> 01:08:56,260
to this I've been seeing this coming

1795
01:09:00,510 --> 01:08:58,390
down the road like dig calm kind of fell

1796
01:09:02,610 --> 01:09:00,520
apart I just knew it was time we had to

1797
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:02,620
set up a reddit alternative and there's

1798
01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:05,890
Vogt CEO is another alternative but it

1799
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:07,630
got taken over by the people who got

1800
01:09:11,370 --> 01:09:09,370
kicked out of reddit which ended up

1801
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:11,380
being a lot of very right-wing racist

1802
01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:13,120
people basically and so there was a

1803
01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:15,070
collection of these types of people on

1804
01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:17,380
vote and that end up determining its

1805
01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:20,500
culture of the site and so we hope to

1806
01:09:27,540 --> 01:09:23,490
avoid a similar fate that said it so

1807
01:09:28,890 --> 01:09:27,550
it's a very debate focused website and

1808
01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:28,900
the moderation is just based on

1809
01:09:32,250 --> 01:09:30,520
basically the amount of respect you pay

1810
01:09:34,260 --> 01:09:32,260
the other person as opposed to what

1811
01:09:35,730 --> 01:09:34,270
opinion you have or whatever unsteady

1812
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:35,740
you can have any opinion you want as

1813
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:37,570
long as you respect the other person

1814
01:09:41,670 --> 01:09:39,910
when you express it and that's basically

1815
01:09:44,370 --> 01:09:41,680
all there is to it and I think that way

1816
01:09:47,010 --> 01:09:44,380
we can have all sides of a lot of

1817
01:09:49,770 --> 01:09:47,020
different debates but it not descend

1818
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:49,780
into you know trolling and anger and

1819
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:52,810
vote manipulation and stuff that's

1820
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:54,310
another thing was said it is also and so

1821
01:09:59,070 --> 01:09:56,050
the up boat down boat system like there

1822
01:10:01,050 --> 01:09:59,080
is on Reddit we have a insightful and

1823
01:10:03,060 --> 01:10:01,060
funny voting system so you can impose

1824
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:03,070
something as insightful or as funny or

1825
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:06,400
as both and because there's no down vote

1826
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:08,800
you don't get brigades of people working

1827
01:10:13,140 --> 01:10:11,290
together to try and control comment

1828
01:10:14,850 --> 01:10:13,150
sections because they can't undo

1829
01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:14,860
people's votes you know you can undo it

1830
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:16,600
and up vote with the down boat so they

1831
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:18,640
can basically shape whatever they want

1832
01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:21,010
however they like but if you've got two

1833
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:23,320
separate types of up votes the only

1834
01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:25,090
thing you can do if you don't like it is

1835
01:10:29,580 --> 01:10:28,120
ignore it smart yeah so you say this is

1836
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:29,590
good or you can ignore it so that's kind

1837
01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:31,030
of a way of the side so we hope this

1838
01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:32,740
will cut down on trolling and cut down

1839
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:35,320
on the problems that have become so

1840
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:37,450
rampant on Reddit it's been exciting

1841
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:38,770
we've seen some exciting growth and

1842
01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:40,480
we've got sixteen hundred usernames

1843
01:10:47,010 --> 01:10:43,150
signed up now and according to Alexa

1844
01:10:49,770 --> 01:10:47,020
rank or 260,000 in the world by traffic

1845
01:10:51,690 --> 01:10:49,780
which is a fairly decent ranking so far

1846
01:10:52,260 --> 01:10:51,700
so and we're always adding new features

1847
01:10:54,990 --> 01:10:52,270
we just

1848
01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:55,000
like image and video it's Pando so you

1849
01:10:58,350 --> 01:10:56,710
can view the videos and images in line

1850
01:11:00,960 --> 01:10:58,360
as you're scrolling which is the future

1851
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:00,970
that voting breaded have had so we're

1852
01:11:04,830 --> 01:11:03,010
kind of joining them with that we've

1853
01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:04,840
also got unique features like to put our

1854
01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:08,260
see chat like a live chat in every

1855
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:10,630
single sub so you can go to any sub and

1856
01:11:14,460 --> 01:11:12,610
it's got a live chat dedicated for it

1857
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:14,470
which is kind of cool so we're hoping

1858
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:17,530
little communities can develop not just

1859
01:11:21,210 --> 01:11:19,150
around the posts but also around the

1860
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:21,220
chatting which gives it more life and

1861
01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:22,810
different ways to communicate with

1862
01:11:28,710 --> 01:11:25,390
people so very awesome

1863
01:11:31,380 --> 01:11:28,720
I think that's great and give the URL

1864
01:11:34,170 --> 01:11:31,390
spell the URL out for people real quick

1865
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:34,180
yeah sure it's said it dotnet so it's

1866
01:11:41,070 --> 01:11:35,290
like he said she said

1867
01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:41,080
sa ID i T dotnet cool that's great man

1868
01:11:44,970 --> 01:11:42,910
and I've struggled with mainstream

1869
01:11:47,310 --> 01:11:44,980
platforms a bit myself I got almost a

1870
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:47,320
full month time out from YouTube where I

1871
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:49,450
couldn't post any shows or communicate

1872
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to the subscribers there

1873
01:11:55,770 --> 01:11:53,050
yeah that's thought yeah I really wanted

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01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:55,780
to quit YouTube but D tube and

1875
01:11:59,820 --> 01:11:57,190
shoot and all these supposed

1876
01:12:01,380 --> 01:11:59,830
alternatives they barely even work you

1877
01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:01,390
know I'm not watching an hour-long video

1878
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:03,670
on D 2 but doesn't work yeah it's

1879
01:12:09,390 --> 01:12:07,690
annoying there's this alternative hook

1880
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:09,400
tube have you heard of it it's like a

1881
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:11,130
backup system for YouTube you can

1882
01:12:15,900 --> 01:12:14,290
archive any video basically but they had

1883
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:15,910
to shut down the other day they've been

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01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:17,530
operating for like three or four years

1885
01:12:21,810 --> 01:12:19,690
and they just two days ago had to shut

1886
01:12:24,270 --> 01:12:21,820
down because YouTube changed their API

1887
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:24,280
so you can't interact with YouTube

1888
01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:25,690
through API is the same way as you could

1889
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:28,230
not broke the whole hook tube service I

1890
01:12:32,940 --> 01:12:30,730
think building a video alternative is

1891
01:12:36,420 --> 01:12:32,950
very hard but luckily building a reddit

1892
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:36,430
alternative is not quite as bad so we've

1893
01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:38,130
got this thing streamlined I mean it's

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01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:41,350
streamlined for fastness but also

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:43,630
streamlined for a cost-effectiveness so

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01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:45,730
I mean it's very low expenditures for us

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01:12:48,930 --> 01:12:47,590
to keep this thing going so we plan to

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01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:48,940
be able to run it for years or decades

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01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:51,850
to come so we look forward to seeing the

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01:12:55,650 --> 01:12:54,190
community grow as it has and to keep

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01:12:57,780 --> 01:12:55,660
adding new features and you know

1902
01:12:59,790 --> 01:12:57,790
hopefully someday we'll throw to the

1903
01:13:02,070 --> 01:12:59,800
size of vote or maybe you from reddit

1904
01:13:03,570 --> 01:13:02,080
that would be crazy I really wish you

1905
01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:03,580
luck on that it's just so frustrating

1906
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:05,800
too because people

1907
01:13:10,050 --> 01:13:07,840
to only want to huddle around these

1908
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:10,060
massive corporate platforms it's just

1909
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:12,010
really annoying and that's what got me

1910
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:14,170
to end up going back to YouTube posting

1911
01:13:19,230 --> 01:13:17,050
shows there right but it's like people

1912
01:13:21,210 --> 01:13:19,240
say they want freedom but the data shows

1913
01:13:23,370 --> 01:13:21,220
they pretty much only get on the

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01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:23,380
internet to check Facebook Google Amazon

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01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:26,770
or porn and the data doesn't lie so rate

1916
01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:28,870
you know what are you gonna do with

1917
01:13:32,220 --> 01:13:30,040
sites like Reddit you have a critical

1918
01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:32,230
mass problem too because the more users

1919
01:13:35,580 --> 01:13:34,270
are on the site the more fun the site is

1920
01:13:38,190 --> 01:13:35,590
to use because there's more people to

1921
01:13:40,650 --> 01:13:38,200
interact with yes and everyone is on

1922
01:13:43,170 --> 01:13:40,660
reddit just because everyone is on

1923
01:13:46,020 --> 01:13:43,180
reddit you know like it's like a loop

1924
01:13:47,610 --> 01:13:46,030
it's a self problem I think the only way

1925
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:47,620
it's gonna change is reddit has been

1926
01:13:53,460 --> 01:13:50,800
working on this redesign and do you

1927
01:13:55,490 --> 01:13:53,470
remember Digg calm did your visa yeah so

1928
01:13:58,140 --> 01:13:55,500
do you remember the Digg calm redesign

1929
01:13:59,220 --> 01:13:58,150
remember that basically broke Digg no

1930
01:14:01,170 --> 01:13:59,230
one wanted to go there anymore

1931
01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:01,180
exactly yeah so they've been kind of

1932
01:14:05,580 --> 01:14:04,270
like slipping in advertiser things as if

1933
01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:05,590
they were articles and people were

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01:14:08,370 --> 01:14:06,940
getting pissed off and then they

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01:14:10,170 --> 01:14:08,380
basically did this huge redesign that

1936
01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:10,180
changed the whole site and he couldn't

1937
01:14:15,570 --> 01:14:12,310
opt-out or anything and it was to hide

1938
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:15,580
advertising content even better as if it

1939
01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:17,890
were user posted content so basically

1940
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:19,900
it's just all like for advertiser grab

1941
01:14:24,570 --> 01:14:22,810
for money you know and reddit is

1942
01:14:25,950 --> 01:14:24,580
undoubtedly doing the exact same thing

1943
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,960
here so they're redesigned they're

1944
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:27,280
putting a lot more thought into it and

1945
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:28,810
they're allowing people to opt out but

1946
01:14:31,950 --> 01:14:30,370
it's gonna get to a point where they're

1947
01:14:33,690 --> 01:14:31,960
not going to support the old version

1948
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:33,700
anymore and they're gonna force the

1949
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:36,400
redesign and it's gonna piss literally

1950
01:14:39,930 --> 01:14:38,170
millions of people off just like Digg

1951
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:39,940
but I think they're gonna do it because

1952
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:42,610
they view it as a financially

1953
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:44,290
intelligent move you know I think they

1954
01:14:47,010 --> 01:14:45,250
think they're going to get all this

1955
01:14:49,290 --> 01:14:47,020
extra advertising revenue and they've

1956
01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:49,300
got a captive audience and all this

1957
01:14:52,890 --> 01:14:50,710
stuff so I think that's kind of where

1958
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:52,900
their head is at but when that happens

1959
01:14:56,580 --> 01:14:54,970
and they screw everyone over just like

1960
01:14:59,100 --> 01:14:56,590
Digg screwed over a bunch of people you

1961
01:15:01,680 --> 01:14:59,110
know said it will be there so it will be

1962
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:01,690
waiting with open arms to accept the

1963
01:15:09,810 --> 01:15:05,890
refugees from reddit so for sure well

1964
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:09,820
dude again great stuff really awesome

1965
01:15:13,740 --> 01:15:12,310
research you definitely fit you know

1966
01:15:16,410 --> 01:15:13,750
you're definitely aggressive with the

1967
01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:16,420
research and but also really even-handed

1968
01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:18,260
and fair too

1969
01:15:22,330 --> 01:15:20,510
the middle ground so thanks I don't

1970
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:22,340
think it suffers from this hole you know

1971
01:15:25,450 --> 01:15:23,450
when all you have is a hammer everything

1972
01:15:27,220 --> 01:15:25,460
looks like a nail thing right you know a

1973
01:15:30,010 --> 01:15:27,230
lot of times I interview researchers

1974
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:30,020
where they just run off with a few bits

1975
01:15:34,450 --> 01:15:31,730
of data and make some pretty out-there

1976
01:15:36,460 --> 01:15:34,460
conclusions but you seem even-handed and

1977
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:36,470
that's important and to me those are my

1978
01:15:40,060 --> 01:15:37,970
favorite shows to do so I really

1979
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:40,070
appreciate it thanks man I feel the same

1980
01:15:42,820 --> 01:15:41,360
way about you as an interviewer I

1981
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:42,830
thought you asked very interesting

1982
01:15:46,540 --> 01:15:44,210
questions and you always let the

1983
01:15:48,130 --> 01:15:46,550
interviewee say their piece of the story

1984
01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:48,140
and their angle even if it doesn't

1985
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:50,960
totally stand up to scrutiny so you let

1986
01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:53,090
the viewer decide I really like that I

1987
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:54,350
think that's something that's missing

1988
01:15:59,260 --> 01:15:56,570
from a lot of media well cheers to that

1989
01:16:02,080 --> 01:15:59,270
and man you know I've kept you a little

1990
01:16:03,460 --> 01:16:02,090
bit over the allotted time so I should

1991
01:16:06,130 --> 01:16:03,470
probably let you get on with your day

1992
01:16:07,780 --> 01:16:06,140
but again great job really appreciate

1993
01:16:10,270 --> 01:16:07,790
you coming on any other parting words

1994
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:10,280
for the people no you know just keep

1995
01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:11,930
looking into these things I think it's

1996
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:13,910
important these things are emotionally

1997
01:16:17,470 --> 01:16:15,710
exhausting but I think that is the

1998
01:16:19,540 --> 01:16:17,480
reason they assume you won't look into

1999
01:16:21,700 --> 01:16:19,550
them if you can kind of overcome that

2000
01:16:23,770 --> 01:16:21,710
and and then you have learn how to take

2001
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:23,780
the steam off by watching funny things

2002
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:25,610
like I like late night shows salty like

2003
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:27,050
four hours of research and this really

2004
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:28,880
heavy stuff and then all watch the

2005
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:31,310
late-night shows unwind don't be afraid

2006
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:32,810
to look into stuff even if it seems

2007
01:16:37,450 --> 01:16:34,400
scary I think that's what I would say to

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01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:37,460
people the reason people don't look into

2009
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:39,050
things sometimes is because their

2010
01:16:44,979 --> 01:16:40,970
emotions and I think that's important to

2011
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:44,989
overcome well said right on man mag

2012
01:16:51,250 --> 01:16:48,530
Norris seven another great show in the

2013
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:51,260
can until next time keep it up and take

2014
01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:54,050
care hey thanks man appreciate it you

2015
01:16:59,440 --> 01:16:55,540
got it

2016
01:17:02,410 --> 01:16:59,450
mmm-hmm hell of a show people hell of a

2017
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:02,420
show the triumphant return of Madden or

2018
01:17:07,630 --> 01:17:06,290
seven good man good topic I do think

2019
01:17:10,210 --> 01:17:07,640
there's something fishy about these

2020
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:10,220
deaths and I want to be able to talk

2021
01:17:16,150 --> 01:17:13,010
about it without going full cuing on and

2022
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:16,160
so I think we accomplished that today we

2023
01:17:21,370 --> 01:17:18,800
covered quite a few details and a lot of

2024
01:17:22,750 --> 01:17:21,380
it is speculative but I don't think we

2025
01:17:24,700 --> 01:17:22,760
stretch too hard

2026
01:17:27,610 --> 01:17:24,710
maybe I'm just prone to thinking

2027
01:17:30,340 --> 01:17:27,620
conspiratorial II I might be biased but

2028
01:17:32,140 --> 01:17:30,350
that's why you come here this show gets

2029
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:32,150
you a lot of alternative

2030
01:17:36,939 --> 01:17:33,890
pinions on many different things but a

2031
01:17:39,340 --> 01:17:36,949
major artery on this beast is

2032
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:39,350
the conspiratorial view always will be

2033
01:17:44,620 --> 01:17:42,050
so this is probably the strongest case

2034
01:17:46,780 --> 01:17:44,630
we could make for conspiracy in an hour

2035
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:46,790
and it was funny because mag thought

2036
01:17:50,830 --> 01:17:48,890
this information might be kind of dated

2037
01:17:52,899 --> 01:17:50,840
when we booked the show and then of

2038
01:17:55,149 --> 01:17:52,909
course it takes some time after that to

2039
01:17:56,530 --> 01:17:55,159
even release and I hope people are still

2040
01:17:59,740 --> 01:17:56,540
interested because it just seems like

2041
01:18:01,870 --> 01:17:59,750
yesterday to me but also in the time

2042
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:01,880
just since this show is being edited we

2043
01:18:07,570 --> 01:18:04,489
had other big celebrity dust-ups related

2044
01:18:09,459 --> 01:18:07,580
to pedophilia one was James Gunn the

2045
01:18:12,399 --> 01:18:09,469
director of the guardians of the galaxy

2046
01:18:15,010 --> 01:18:12,409
movies where I guess the story would be

2047
01:18:17,020 --> 01:18:15,020
that he criticized Trump publicly so Fox

2048
01:18:20,020 --> 01:18:17,030
News put some dogs on him to comb

2049
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:20,030
through and find some dirt he's some

2050
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:22,130
ultra Hollywood liberal so there must be

2051
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:24,890
something to find right well sure enough

2052
01:18:30,340 --> 01:18:27,199
there is and it makes you wonder how

2053
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:30,350
many isolated incidents you need to make

2054
01:18:35,470 --> 01:18:33,170
a pattern and in this situation you can

2055
01:18:37,689 --> 01:18:35,480
go ahead and say that they are years old

2056
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:37,699
but he tweeted some pretty raw stuff

2057
01:18:43,060 --> 01:18:41,210
involving kid bucking he says in the

2058
01:18:45,729 --> 01:18:43,070
name of humor and just being provocative

2059
01:18:48,189 --> 01:18:45,739
but it's that definitely would get

2060
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:48,199
any one of us fired from any job and

2061
01:18:53,050 --> 01:18:51,170
I'll be the first to defend humor there

2062
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:53,060
can't really be any lines with humor

2063
01:18:57,580 --> 01:18:55,010
because when you make a line then the

2064
01:19:00,220 --> 01:18:57,590
move is just to go past it but when it

2065
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:00,230
comes to language and comedy and

2066
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:02,570
outrageous statements it is what it is

2067
01:19:07,780 --> 01:19:05,210
but someone who gets caught saying way

2068
01:19:10,770 --> 01:19:07,790
too many pedo things can also use oh I

2069
01:19:13,149 --> 01:19:10,780
was just joking as their first excuse

2070
01:19:16,270 --> 01:19:13,159
just like people make excuses for

2071
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:16,280
Podesta's art but just so we all know

2072
01:19:23,050 --> 01:19:19,370
the types of things he was tweeting he

2073
01:19:25,169 --> 01:19:23,060
was saying things like I like when

2074
01:19:28,030 --> 01:19:25,179
little boys touch me in my silly place

2075
01:19:30,939 --> 01:19:28,040
Eagle snatches kid is what I call it

2076
01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:30,949
when I get lucky the Expendables movie

2077
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:32,960
was so manly that I the little

2078
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:35,810
boy next to me I'm watching

2079
01:19:39,790 --> 01:19:38,210
trapped in the closet are Kelly's second

2080
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:39,800
best video after the one where he

2081
01:19:45,310 --> 01:19:42,290
urinates on a child I mean these things

2082
01:19:45,950 --> 01:19:45,320
are pretty raw he's also one of Disney's

2083
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:45,960
big

2084
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:50,090
directors etc etc but it's obviously not

2085
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:53,730
conclusive of crime but I'm giving this

2086
01:19:58,220 --> 01:19:55,170
context because what I actually found

2087
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:58,230
interesting was it a few days later

2088
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:00,480
there was a petition going around who

2089
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:02,489
knows how many signatures had actually

2090
01:20:06,860 --> 01:20:05,040
had or what's even real but there was a

2091
01:20:09,050 --> 01:20:06,870
story going around that talked about

2092
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:09,060
tens of thousands of signatures on a

2093
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:11,520
petition to get James gun rehired to

2094
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:13,170
complete the guardians of the galaxy

2095
01:20:17,780 --> 01:20:15,810
trilogy and it just gave me some pause

2096
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:17,790
because we have so many guests talk

2097
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:19,770
about the subtle movement to normalize

2098
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:22,770
pedophilia something I've always just

2099
01:20:28,850 --> 01:20:25,650
found way too ridiculous to actually

2100
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:28,860
happen but then that's sort of what the

2101
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:31,530
story is just think about the general

2102
01:20:36,260 --> 01:20:33,570
zeitgeist and the people just getting

2103
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:36,270
the mainstream story they read James

2104
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:38,010
Gunn is fired because of a lot of Peto

2105
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:40,560
tweets then they read that tens of

2106
01:20:44,540 --> 01:20:42,330
thousands of people want him to get his

2107
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:44,550
job back basically saying look we don't

2108
01:20:48,350 --> 01:20:46,560
care about abusing children or joking

2109
01:20:50,959 --> 01:20:48,360
about it to the point of obsession and

2110
01:20:51,290 --> 01:20:50,969
suspicion we don't care about any of

2111
01:20:54,740 --> 01:20:51,300
that

2112
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:54,750
we just want consistency in this movie

2113
01:21:00,050 --> 01:20:57,290
trilogy isn't that a little weird

2114
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:00,060
strange priorities I guess I mean I like

2115
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:02,010
those movies too but I think someone

2116
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:05,040
else can handle it and I just thought

2117
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:06,930
that thread was related and worth

2118
01:21:11,630 --> 01:21:09,570
mentioning as is the thing with Dan

2119
01:21:13,820 --> 01:21:11,640
Harmon if you don't know him he's the

2120
01:21:16,190 --> 01:21:13,830
creator of the show community which I

2121
01:21:19,340 --> 01:21:16,200
didn't care for and Rick and Morty which

2122
01:21:23,570 --> 01:21:19,350
I sort of loved his career is completely

2123
01:21:26,330 --> 01:21:23,580
on easy street but he decided to release

2124
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:26,340
a skit where he says he's doing a pilot

2125
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:29,370
for Showtime for a new show called Daryl

2126
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:32,880
it's a parody of Dexter where he doesn't

2127
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:35,850
kill his victims he just their

2128
01:21:42,050 --> 01:21:39,330
babies and he does it in the skit he

2129
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:42,060
drops his pants shows his bare ass and

2130
01:21:48,290 --> 01:21:44,370
puts his dick in the face of a plastic

2131
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:48,300
baby doll several times and maybe it is

2132
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:52,410
just raw humor but this guy is like 35

2133
01:21:58,419 --> 01:21:55,290
40 we are not in high school

2134
01:22:01,330 --> 01:21:58,429
snickering at shock jock humor

2135
01:22:04,510 --> 01:22:01,340
again it's not a crime but it just seems

2136
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:04,520
very unwise and now he's deleted his

2137
01:22:10,270 --> 01:22:06,650
Twitter and he's doing a bunch of damage

2138
01:22:12,010 --> 01:22:10,280
control and it's just like dude it does

2139
01:22:13,870 --> 01:22:12,020
not look good to have some exploding

2140
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:13,880
Hollywood career and then release

2141
01:22:18,580 --> 01:22:16,400
something like this as if it's okay and

2142
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:18,590
we have to go over these things from a

2143
01:22:22,959 --> 01:22:20,449
conspiratorial perspective because we

2144
01:22:25,959 --> 01:22:22,969
know the proper investigations aren't

2145
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:25,969
ever being done that is the thing tweets

2146
01:22:31,780 --> 01:22:29,330
and actual crimes are worlds apart and

2147
01:22:34,990 --> 01:22:31,790
if we lived in a reality where we had a

2148
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:35,000
fair noble vigilant law enforcement

2149
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:37,520
system protecting children then these

2150
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:39,050
sorts of things wouldn't be as

2151
01:22:44,050 --> 01:22:41,570
suspicious as they are in a reality

2152
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:44,060
where we know nothing's being done so

2153
01:22:48,340 --> 01:22:45,650
here we are combing over all these

2154
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:48,350
things ourselves sometimes a joke is

2155
01:22:53,950 --> 01:22:51,110
just a joke but sometimes if it's

2156
01:22:56,620 --> 01:22:53,960
constant and obsessive it could also be

2157
01:22:58,570 --> 01:22:56,630
gloating because again they probably

2158
01:23:01,140 --> 01:22:58,580
can't believe it themselves that it's

2159
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:01,150
just a free-for-all in Hollywood and DC

2160
01:23:05,979 --> 01:23:03,650
but in terms of the actual content of

2161
01:23:08,380 --> 01:23:05,989
today's show I did want to play asia's

2162
01:23:11,410 --> 01:23:08,390
speech from the Cannes Film Festival at

2163
01:23:14,890 --> 01:23:11,420
least in part here's a clip and you tell

2164
01:23:16,689 --> 01:23:14,900
me if this is worth considering after

2165
01:23:22,350 --> 01:23:16,699
Anthony Bourdain's death just a week

2166
01:23:27,149 --> 01:23:22,360
later he was today

2167
01:23:32,970 --> 01:23:27,159
in 1997 I was raped by Harvey Weinstein

2168
01:23:38,609 --> 01:23:32,980
here at camp I was 21 years old this

2169
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:38,619
festival was his hunting ground I want

2170
01:23:45,229 --> 01:23:42,250
to make a prediction Harvey Weinstein

2171
01:23:48,959 --> 01:23:45,239
will never be welcomed here ever again

2172
01:23:51,839 --> 01:23:48,969
he will live in disgrace shot by a film

2173
01:23:55,319 --> 01:23:51,849
community that once embraced him and

2174
01:23:58,859 --> 01:23:55,329
covered up for his crimes and even

2175
01:24:01,020 --> 01:23:58,869
tonight sitting among you there are

2176
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:01,030
those who still have to be held

2177
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:04,000
accountable for their conduct against

2178
01:24:10,770 --> 01:24:08,530
women for behavior that does not belong

2179
01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:10,780
in this industry does not belong in an

2180
01:24:18,689 --> 01:24:14,409
industry or workplace you know who you

2181
01:24:21,689 --> 01:24:18,699
are but most importantly we know who you

2182
01:24:25,140 --> 01:24:21,699
are and we're not going to allow you to

2183
01:24:27,870 --> 01:24:25,150
get away with it any longer so there you

2184
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:27,880
go there's that nothing vague about it I

2185
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,489
think it's important but who knows I

2186
01:24:35,729 --> 01:24:33,040
will say I really do appreciate the work

2187
01:24:38,189 --> 01:24:35,739
Magnum r7 did to prepare for this

2188
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:38,199
episode not only in the first hour but

2189
01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:40,480
then we went in a completely different

2190
01:24:45,390 --> 01:24:43,150
direction the second hour that was more

2191
01:24:48,359 --> 01:24:45,400
of a continuation of the Rothschild

2192
01:24:50,819 --> 01:24:48,369
Rockefeller or diamond and oil resource

2193
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:50,829
rape of Africa that we covered last time

2194
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:53,710
and we went country by country adding a

2195
01:24:58,319 --> 01:24:56,050
lot more to the list and I'm serious

2196
01:25:00,120 --> 01:24:58,329
when I say that this should be the book

2197
01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:00,130
he writes and it should be called the

2198
01:25:06,030 --> 01:25:02,980
resource curse or the resource rape but

2199
01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:06,040
that might be too aggressive regardless

2200
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:07,780
if you liked that first show we did a

2201
01:25:13,649 --> 01:25:10,480
few months back maybe even more than

2202
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:13,659
that time flies but in the second hour

2203
01:25:21,319 --> 01:25:17,050
we did follow up with more countries

2204
01:25:24,149 --> 01:25:21,329
like Angola Nigeria Algeria the

2205
01:25:27,060 --> 01:25:24,159
Democratic Republic of the Congo and a

2206
01:25:29,549 --> 01:25:27,070
few others so sign up at the higher side

2207
01:25:32,030 --> 01:25:29,559
chats plus com if you want to hear the

2208
01:25:35,180 --> 01:25:32,040
things that nobody is talking about

2209
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:35,190
yeah we also got into Freemasonry a bit

2210
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:38,010
too and Zionism and I get a lot of flack

2211
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:40,650
for not covering Zionism enough but if

2212
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:42,690
you've been into this type of stuff for

2213
01:25:47,690 --> 01:25:45,210
more than a few years you probably don't

2214
01:25:50,450 --> 01:25:47,700
need to be reminded about Zionists very

2215
01:25:52,340 --> 01:25:50,460
much anyway there it is the case for

2216
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:52,350
something rotten in Denmark when it

2217
01:25:57,770 --> 01:25:55,170
comes to this suicide string Oh

2218
01:25:59,780 --> 01:25:57,780
suicide string that's all right I think

2219
01:26:02,870 --> 01:25:59,790
I'm gonna use that in the title but with

2220
01:26:05,480 --> 01:26:02,880
that said we have the last $5 plus show

2221
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:05,490
of the higher side chats bit of a

2222
01:26:08,690 --> 01:26:06,480
milestone for me

2223
01:26:11,420 --> 01:26:08,700
August first is the infamous price

2224
01:26:13,610 --> 01:26:11,430
increase I hope I've built up enough

2225
01:26:15,170 --> 01:26:13,620
goodwill over time that you trust me

2226
01:26:17,540 --> 01:26:15,180
when I say that this is kind of just

2227
01:26:19,850 --> 01:26:17,550
what I have to do but I think it's going

2228
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:19,860
to enable us to have a better show a

2229
01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:22,560
better infrastructure and maybe expand

2230
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:25,320
into some other things I don't know no

2231
01:26:30,980 --> 01:26:27,810
promises cuz I gotta wait and see where

2232
01:26:33,380 --> 01:26:30,990
the dust settles after this change I've

2233
01:26:35,870 --> 01:26:33,390
had some people write me that are very

2234
01:26:38,990 --> 01:26:35,880
unhappy saying that they can't afford

2235
01:26:40,910 --> 01:26:39,000
the price increase and to me it's hard

2236
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:40,920
to find things that over the past four

2237
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:43,290
or more years have not increased in

2238
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:45,840
price it's still cheaper than a movie

2239
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:47,850
ticket it's still around the cost of a

2240
01:26:53,810 --> 01:26:51,120
beer and four years ago had I just

2241
01:26:55,310 --> 01:26:53,820
started at $8 instead of five you

2242
01:26:58,190 --> 01:26:55,320
wouldn't even know the difference so I

2243
01:27:00,290 --> 01:26:58,200
would say consider it a deal that you've

2244
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:00,300
got in the last four years for the

2245
01:27:04,970 --> 01:27:02,730
bottom barrel price and now we're coming

2246
01:27:08,510 --> 01:27:04,980
up to the level that most of my

2247
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:08,520
colleagues are at and I know I've

2248
01:27:11,660 --> 01:27:10,290
repeatedly said that Plus members won't

2249
01:27:13,540 --> 01:27:11,670
have to do anything during this

2250
01:27:17,330 --> 01:27:13,550
transition and that's pretty much true

2251
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:17,340
unless you subscribe via patreon see

2252
01:27:21,140 --> 01:27:18,930
when I control the system I can do what

2253
01:27:22,250 --> 01:27:21,150
I need to but patreon is a third party

2254
01:27:24,770 --> 01:27:22,260
they got their own rules they don't

2255
01:27:27,620 --> 01:27:24,780
allow you to change your prices so

2256
01:27:30,290 --> 01:27:27,630
there's now an $8 tier on patreon and

2257
01:27:31,970 --> 01:27:30,300
new shows will just be posted for people

2258
01:27:34,670 --> 01:27:31,980
of that tier so you will have to click

2259
01:27:36,890 --> 01:27:34,680
on the Box to up your subscription but I

2260
01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:36,900
will handle that with the small number

2261
01:27:41,930 --> 01:27:38,910
of patreon subscriptions we actually

2262
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:41,940
have but it's a big stressful moment for

2263
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:44,210
me and a lot of you guys have

2264
01:27:50,020 --> 01:27:47,120
and really super super cool about it I

2265
01:27:52,510 --> 01:27:50,030
appreciate it I know I and moan

2266
01:27:55,420 --> 01:27:52,520
about critics and haters and trolls in a

2267
01:27:57,250 --> 01:27:55,430
lot of the wrap-up portions and I'm

2268
01:27:59,290 --> 01:27:57,260
really gonna change that going forward I

2269
01:28:01,660 --> 01:27:59,300
don't think we need to apologize for

2270
01:28:04,630 --> 01:28:01,670
being curious and exploring weird

2271
01:28:07,330 --> 01:28:04,640
perspectives the culture has changed

2272
01:28:09,459 --> 01:28:07,340
though a lot of conspiratorial threads

2273
01:28:13,090 --> 01:28:09,469
have gotten more polarized more

2274
01:28:15,820 --> 01:28:13,100
political and more extreme than when I

2275
01:28:17,350 --> 01:28:15,830
started and I try to navigate that still

2276
01:28:20,110 --> 01:28:17,360
keep an open mind and leave no

2277
01:28:22,540 --> 01:28:20,120
conspiracy behind completely but a lot

2278
01:28:25,180 --> 01:28:22,550
of listeners do want to show that plants

2279
01:28:28,209 --> 01:28:25,190
its flag on one perspective and stays

2280
01:28:30,459 --> 01:28:28,219
there and I just can't do that and I

2281
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:30,469
hope the majority of people see that as

2282
01:28:35,290 --> 01:28:32,650
a feature not a bug

2283
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:35,300
and I'll keep charging ahead thanks for

2284
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:36,770
listening I've done my part

2285
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:39,290
your move door knob assassins nefarious

2286
01:28:46,250 --> 01:28:41,120
Network protectors and celebrity

2287
01:29:02,990 --> 01:28:55,880
[Music]

2288
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:05,900
go in under and now you'll find me in

2289
01:29:19,540 --> 01:29:07,110
the bunker

2290
01:29:22,540 --> 01:29:19,550
[Music]

2291
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:22,550
take it

2292
01:29:28,420 --> 01:29:25,610
in the manga welcome

2293
01:29:30,690 --> 01:29:28,430
[Music]

2294
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:30,700
in the bunker

2295
01:29:39,169 --> 01:29:32,449
[Music]

2296
01:29:42,469 --> 01:29:39,179
banca yeah the last thing any classes

2297
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:42,479
while the scheming on the masses who do

2298
01:29:49,879 --> 01:29:46,110
you think they are fancy see you Lana

2299
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:49,889
say God tell you the basics they print

2300
01:29:56,180 --> 01:29:52,489
your money got the Fed in your head

2301
01:30:02,140 --> 01:29:56,190
currency now the smiling entertains me

2302
01:30:02,150 --> 01:30:14,010
[Music]

2303
01:30:14,020 --> 01:30:17,660
religion

2304
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:22,300
[Music]

2305
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:25,920
plans are simple the best protection of

2306
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:28,410
all is the special shelter built

2307
01:30:33,070 --> 01:30:30,330
according to specifications of your

2308
01:30:35,170 --> 01:30:33,080
local civil defense organization

2309
01:30:37,480 --> 01:30:35,180
the basement of any house or building

2310
01:30:39,700 --> 01:30:37,490
will become a good to improvise shelters

2311
01:30:43,330 --> 01:30:39,710
if you block the windows with the same

2312
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:43,340
thing if you don't have sandbags just

2313
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:48,170
what can you do take it under you'll

2314
01:30:58,890 --> 01:30:50,290
find me in the bunker

2315
01:31:22,660 --> 01:30:58,900
[Music]